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From: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>
To: Wen Congyang <wency@cn.fujitsu.com>
Cc: Luiz Capitulino <lcapitulino@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	"Richard W.M. Jones" <rjones@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [Question] dump memory when host pci device is used by guest
Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 11:41:57 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4E9FECE5.2000802@siemens.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4E9F77BE.50701@cn.fujitsu.com>

On 2011-10-20 03:22, Wen Congyang wrote:
>>> I didn't read full story but 'crash' is used for investigating kernel core generated
>>> by kdump for several years. Considering support service guys, virsh dump should support
>>> a format for crash because they can't work well at investigating vmcore by gdb.
>>>
>>> crash has several functionality useful for them as 'show kerne log', 'focus on a cpu'
>>> 'for-each-task', 'for-each-vma', 'extract ftrace log' etc.
>>>
>>> Anyway, if a man, who is not developper of qemu/kvm, should learn 2 tools for
>>> investigating kernel dump, it sounds harmful.
>>
>> Right, that's why everything (live debugging & crash analysis) should be
>> consolidated on the long run over gdb. crash is architecturally obsolete
>> today - not saying it is useless!
> 
> I do not know why crash is obsoleted today. Is there a new better tool to instead
> crash?

I'm not aware of equally powerful (python) scripts for gdb as
replacement, but I think it's worth starting a porting effort at some point.

> 
> At least, I always use crash to live debugging & crash analysis.

Then you may answer some questions to me:
 - Can you attach to a remote target (kgdb, qemu, etc.) and how?
 - Can you use it with latest gdb versions or is the gdb functionality
   hard-wired due to an embedded gdb core in crash (that's how I
   understood Christoph's reply to this topic)

Thanks,
Jan

-- 
Siemens AG, Corporate Technology, CT T DE IT 1
Corporate Competence Center Embedded Linux

  reply	other threads:[~2011-10-20  9:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 100+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-10-07  9:46 [Qemu-devel] [Question] dump memory when host pci device is used by guest Wen Congyang
2011-10-07 10:16 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-07 12:25   ` Wen Congyang
2011-10-07 12:56     ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-07 14:05       ` Wen Congyang
2011-10-07 15:06         ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-10  9:00       ` Daniel P. Berrange
2011-10-08 15:16   ` Richard W.M. Jones
2011-10-09  8:49     ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-09 10:23       ` Richard W.M. Jones
2011-10-09 10:26         ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-10  2:21         ` Wen Congyang
2011-10-10  6:52           ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-10  6:59             ` Wen Congyang
2011-10-10  7:01               ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-10  7:17                 ` Wen Congyang
2011-10-10  7:22                   ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-10  7:47                     ` Wen Congyang
2011-10-10  7:48                       ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-10  8:28                         ` Wen Congyang
2011-10-10  7:08             ` Alexander Graf
2011-10-10  7:10               ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-10  9:02             ` Daniel P. Berrange
2011-10-10  9:34               ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-11  2:27                 ` Wen Congyang
2011-10-18  7:15                 ` Wen Congyang
2011-10-18  7:52                   ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-18  7:58                     ` Wen Congyang
2011-10-18  8:19                       ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-18  8:25                         ` Wen Congyang
2011-10-18  8:26                           ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-18  8:31                             ` Wen Congyang
2011-10-18  8:31                               ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-18  8:34                                 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2011-10-18  8:36                                   ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-18  8:39                                     ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-18 10:41                                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-10-18 10:42                                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-10-18 12:47                                           ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-18 13:08                                             ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-10-18 13:13                                               ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-18 10:47                                         ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-18 13:30                                           ` Richard W.M. Jones
2011-10-18 13:34                                             ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-18  9:43                                     ` Wen Congyang
2011-10-18 10:28                                       ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-18 13:51                                         ` Wen Congyang
2011-10-18 13:55                                           ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-18 14:17                                             ` Wen Congyang
2011-10-18 14:21                                               ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-18 15:04                                                 ` Wen Congyang
2011-10-18 15:27                                                   ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-19  1:23                                                     ` Wen Congyang
2011-10-19  2:04                                 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-10-19 11:40                                   ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-20  1:22                                     ` Wen Congyang
2011-10-20  9:41                                       ` Jan Kiszka [this message]
2011-10-20 10:03                                         ` Wen Congyang
2011-10-21  7:11                                           ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-21  7:50                                             ` Wen Congyang
2011-10-21 13:02                                               ` Dave Anderson
2011-10-21 13:16                                                 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-21 14:12                                                 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2011-10-24  2:25                                                 ` Wen Congyang
2011-10-24 14:25                                                   ` Dave Anderson
2011-10-24 15:01                                                     ` Avi Kivity
2011-10-24 15:25                                                       ` Dave Anderson
2011-10-24 15:30                                                         ` Avi Kivity
2011-10-24 15:58                                                           ` Dave Anderson
2011-10-25  1:37                                                             ` Wen Congyang
2011-10-25  7:37                                                               ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-25  8:06                                                           ` Wen Congyang
2011-10-25  8:23                                                             ` Avi Kivity
2011-10-25  8:35                                                               ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-10-25  8:52                                                                 ` Avi Kivity
2011-10-25  8:56                                                                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-10-25  9:19                                                                     ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-25 13:18                                                                 ` Dave Anderson
2011-10-25 13:22                                                                   ` Avi Kivity
2011-10-18  7:58                   ` Daniel P. Berrange
2011-10-18  8:17                     ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-18  8:25                       ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-18  8:25                       ` Daniel P. Berrange
2011-10-18  8:30                         ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-10  9:08           ` Daniel P. Berrange
2011-10-10  9:10             ` Daniel P. Berrange
2011-10-10  9:34               ` Richard W.M. Jones
2011-10-10 10:17                 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-10  9:34               ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-10 10:19                 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2011-10-11  2:20                   ` Wen Congyang
2011-10-11  6:58                     ` Jan Kiszka
2011-10-11  7:13                       ` Wen Congyang
2011-10-10 10:21                 ` Alon Levy
2011-10-10 10:48                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-10-10 11:04                     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2011-10-10 11:09                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-10-10 12:00                         ` [Qemu-devel] windows crash dump header. was: " Alon Levy
2011-10-10 12:38                           ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-10-10 13:47                             ` Alon Levy

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