From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752052Ab1KFM1W (ORCPT ); Sun, 6 Nov 2011 07:27:22 -0500 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([209.132.183.28]:38923 "EHLO mx1.redhat.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751525Ab1KFM1V (ORCPT ); Sun, 6 Nov 2011 07:27:21 -0500 Message-ID: <4EB67D17.7000701@redhat.com> Date: Sun, 06 Nov 2011 14:27:03 +0200 From: Avi Kivity User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:7.0) Gecko/20110927 Thunderbird/7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Pekka Enberg CC: Alexander Graf , Linus Torvalds , Ingo Molnar , "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org List" , "kvm@vger.kernel.org list" , qemu-devel Developers , =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Am=E9rico_Wang?= , Blue Swirl Subject: Re: [PATCH] KVM: Add wrapper script around QEMU to test kernels References: <1320543320-32728-1-git-send-email-agraf@suse.de> <4EB65C5B.8070709@redhat.com> <4EB66036.4080102@redhat.com> <1320577728.1428.73.camel@jaguar> <4EB67486.1070105@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On 11/06/2011 02:14 PM, Pekka Enberg wrote: > On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 1:50 PM, Avi Kivity wrote: > >> People seem to think the KVM tool is only about solving a specific > >> problem to kernel developers. That's certainly never been my goal as I > >> do lots of userspace programming as well. The end game for me is to > >> replace QEMU/VirtualBox for Linux on Linux virtualization for my day to > >> day purposes. > > > > Maybe it should be in tools/pekka then. Usually subsystems that want to > > be merged into Linux have broaded audiences though. > > I think you completely missed my point. > > I'm simply saying that KVM tool was never about solving a narrow > problem Alexander's script is trying to solve. That's why I feel it's > such a pointless exercise. But from your description, you're trying to solve just another narrow problem: "The end game for me is to replace QEMU/VirtualBox for Linux on Linux virtualization for my day to day purposes. " We rarely merge a subsystem to solve one person's problem (esp. when it is defined as "replace another freely available project", even if you dislike its command line syntax). -- error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Avi Kivity Subject: Re: [PATCH] KVM: Add wrapper script around QEMU to test kernels Date: Sun, 06 Nov 2011 14:27:03 +0200 Message-ID: <4EB67D17.7000701@redhat.com> References: <1320543320-32728-1-git-send-email-agraf@suse.de> <4EB65C5B.8070709@redhat.com> <4EB66036.4080102@redhat.com> <1320577728.1428.73.camel@jaguar> <4EB67486.1070105@redhat.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "kvm@vger.kernel.org list" , "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org List" , qemu-devel Developers , Alexander Graf , Blue Swirl , =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Am=E9rico_Wang?= , Ingo Molnar , Linus Torvalds To: Pekka Enberg Return-path: In-Reply-To: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: qemu-devel-bounces+gceq-qemu-devel=gmane.org@nongnu.org Sender: qemu-devel-bounces+gceq-qemu-devel=gmane.org@nongnu.org List-Id: kvm.vger.kernel.org On 11/06/2011 02:14 PM, Pekka Enberg wrote: > On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 1:50 PM, Avi Kivity wrote: > >> People seem to think the KVM tool is only about solving a specific > >> problem to kernel developers. That's certainly never been my goal as I > >> do lots of userspace programming as well. The end game for me is to > >> replace QEMU/VirtualBox for Linux on Linux virtualization for my day to > >> day purposes. > > > > Maybe it should be in tools/pekka then. Usually subsystems that want to > > be merged into Linux have broaded audiences though. > > I think you completely missed my point. > > I'm simply saying that KVM tool was never about solving a narrow > problem Alexander's script is trying to solve. That's why I feel it's > such a pointless exercise. But from your description, you're trying to solve just another narrow problem: "The end game for me is to replace QEMU/VirtualBox for Linux on Linux virtualization for my day to day purposes. " We rarely merge a subsystem to solve one person's problem (esp. when it is defined as "replace another freely available project", even if you dislike its command line syntax). -- error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:48661) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RN1om-0007Rc-ES for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Sun, 06 Nov 2011 07:27:21 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RN1ol-00062n-8e for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Sun, 06 Nov 2011 07:27:20 -0500 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([209.132.183.28]:50340) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RN1ok-00062e-T7 for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Sun, 06 Nov 2011 07:27:19 -0500 Message-ID: <4EB67D17.7000701@redhat.com> Date: Sun, 06 Nov 2011 14:27:03 +0200 From: Avi Kivity MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <1320543320-32728-1-git-send-email-agraf@suse.de> <4EB65C5B.8070709@redhat.com> <4EB66036.4080102@redhat.com> <1320577728.1428.73.camel@jaguar> <4EB67486.1070105@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] KVM: Add wrapper script around QEMU to test kernels List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: Pekka Enberg Cc: "kvm@vger.kernel.org list" , "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org List" , qemu-devel Developers , Alexander Graf , Blue Swirl , =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Am=E9rico_Wang?= , Ingo Molnar , Linus Torvalds On 11/06/2011 02:14 PM, Pekka Enberg wrote: > On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 1:50 PM, Avi Kivity wrote: > >> People seem to think the KVM tool is only about solving a specific > >> problem to kernel developers. That's certainly never been my goal as I > >> do lots of userspace programming as well. The end game for me is to > >> replace QEMU/VirtualBox for Linux on Linux virtualization for my day to > >> day purposes. > > > > Maybe it should be in tools/pekka then. Usually subsystems that want to > > be merged into Linux have broaded audiences though. > > I think you completely missed my point. > > I'm simply saying that KVM tool was never about solving a narrow > problem Alexander's script is trying to solve. That's why I feel it's > such a pointless exercise. But from your description, you're trying to solve just another narrow problem: "The end game for me is to replace QEMU/VirtualBox for Linux on Linux virtualization for my day to day purposes. " We rarely merge a subsystem to solve one person's problem (esp. when it is defined as "replace another freely available project", even if you dislike its command line syntax). -- error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function