From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752538Ab1KGIw4 (ORCPT ); Mon, 7 Nov 2011 03:52:56 -0500 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([209.132.183.28]:34309 "EHLO mx1.redhat.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752339Ab1KGIwz (ORCPT ); Mon, 7 Nov 2011 03:52:55 -0500 Message-ID: <4EB79C3E.6070606@redhat.com> Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2011 09:52:14 +0100 From: Paolo Bonzini User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110930 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Pekka Enberg CC: Pekka Enberg , Alexander Graf , "kvm@vger.kernel.org list" , qemu-devel Developers , "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org List" , Blue Swirl , Avi Kivity , =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Am=E9rico_Wang?= , Ingo Molnar , Linus Torvalds Subject: Re: [PATCH] KVM: Add wrapper script around QEMU to test kernels References: <1320543320-32728-1-git-send-email-agraf@suse.de> <4EB66036.4080102@redhat.com> <1320577728.1428.73.camel@jaguar> <4EB67486.1070105@redhat.com> <4EB67D17.7000701@redhat.com> <4EB680D9.2070706@redhat.com> <877C82F4-F07C-44AA-8722-3AF57CFC4597@suse.de> <4EB6DBC6.2010404@redhat.com> <4EB6E798.3060000@redhat.com> <4EB79000.5040308@redhat.com> <4EB794E1.5060201@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On 11/07/2011 09:45 AM, Pekka Enberg wrote: > >> Specifications matter much more than working code. Quirks are a fact >> of life but should always come second. > > To quote Linus: > > And I have seen _lots_ of total crap work that was based on specs. It's > _the_ single worst way to write software, because it by definition means > that the software was written to match theory, not reality. All generalizations are false. Paolo From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Paolo Bonzini Subject: Re: [PATCH] KVM: Add wrapper script around QEMU to test kernels Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2011 09:52:14 +0100 Message-ID: <4EB79C3E.6070606@redhat.com> References: <1320543320-32728-1-git-send-email-agraf@suse.de> <4EB66036.4080102@redhat.com> <1320577728.1428.73.camel@jaguar> <4EB67486.1070105@redhat.com> <4EB67D17.7000701@redhat.com> <4EB680D9.2070706@redhat.com> <877C82F4-F07C-44AA-8722-3AF57CFC4597@suse.de> <4EB6DBC6.2010404@redhat.com> <4EB6E798.3060000@redhat.com> <4EB79000.5040308@redhat.com> <4EB794E1.5060201@redhat.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Blue Swirl , "kvm@vger.kernel.org list" , qemu-devel Developers , "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org List" , Alexander Graf , Pekka Enberg , Avi Kivity , =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Am=E9rico_Wang?= , Ingo Molnar , Linus Torvalds To: Pekka Enberg Return-path: In-Reply-To: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: qemu-devel-bounces+gceq-qemu-devel=gmane.org@nongnu.org Sender: qemu-devel-bounces+gceq-qemu-devel=gmane.org@nongnu.org List-Id: kvm.vger.kernel.org On 11/07/2011 09:45 AM, Pekka Enberg wrote: > >> Specifications matter much more than working code. Quirks are a fact >> of life but should always come second. > > To quote Linus: > > And I have seen _lots_ of total crap work that was based on specs. It's > _the_ single worst way to write software, because it by definition means > that the software was written to match theory, not reality. All generalizations are false. Paolo From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:46220) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RNKwo-0001BR-Nu for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Mon, 07 Nov 2011 03:52:55 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RNKwn-0004XB-Pl for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Mon, 07 Nov 2011 03:52:54 -0500 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([209.132.183.28]:15976) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RNKwn-0004X6-FC for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Mon, 07 Nov 2011 03:52:53 -0500 Message-ID: <4EB79C3E.6070606@redhat.com> Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2011 09:52:14 +0100 From: Paolo Bonzini MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <1320543320-32728-1-git-send-email-agraf@suse.de> <4EB66036.4080102@redhat.com> <1320577728.1428.73.camel@jaguar> <4EB67486.1070105@redhat.com> <4EB67D17.7000701@redhat.com> <4EB680D9.2070706@redhat.com> <877C82F4-F07C-44AA-8722-3AF57CFC4597@suse.de> <4EB6DBC6.2010404@redhat.com> <4EB6E798.3060000@redhat.com> <4EB79000.5040308@redhat.com> <4EB794E1.5060201@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] KVM: Add wrapper script around QEMU to test kernels List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: Pekka Enberg Cc: Blue Swirl , "kvm@vger.kernel.org list" , qemu-devel Developers , "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org List" , Alexander Graf , Pekka Enberg , Avi Kivity , =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Am=E9rico_Wang?= , Ingo Molnar , Linus Torvalds On 11/07/2011 09:45 AM, Pekka Enberg wrote: > >> Specifications matter much more than working code. Quirks are a fact >> of life but should always come second. > > To quote Linus: > > And I have seen _lots_ of total crap work that was based on specs. It's > _the_ single worst way to write software, because it by definition means > that the software was written to match theory, not reality. All generalizations are false. Paolo