From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1754030Ab1KGK20 (ORCPT ); Mon, 7 Nov 2011 05:28:26 -0500 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([209.132.183.28]:44753 "EHLO mx1.redhat.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753248Ab1KGK2Z (ORCPT ); Mon, 7 Nov 2011 05:28:25 -0500 Message-ID: <4EB7B375.4090904@redhat.com> Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2011 11:31:17 +0100 From: Kevin Wolf User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:7.0) Gecko/20110927 Thunderbird/7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Ted Ts'o" , Anthony Liguori , Avi Kivity , Pekka Enberg , "kvm@vger.kernel.org list" , "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org List" , qemu-devel Developers , Alexander Graf , Blue Swirl , =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Am=E9rico_Wang?= , Ingo Molnar , Linus Torvalds Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] KVM: Add wrapper script around QEMU to test kernels References: <4EB67486.1070105@redhat.com> <4EB67D17.7000701@redhat.com> <4EB680D9.2070706@redhat.com> <4EB6AE34.2000907@redhat.com> <4EB6BAED.2030400@redhat.com> <4EB6BEFA.6000303@codemonkey.ws> <20111106183132.GA4500@thunk.org> In-Reply-To: <20111106183132.GA4500@thunk.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Am 06.11.2011 19:31, schrieb Ted Ts'o: > On Sun, Nov 06, 2011 at 11:08:10AM -0600, Anthony Liguori wrote: >> I'm quite happy with KVM tool and hope they continue working on it. >> My only real wish is that they wouldn't copy QEMU so much and would >> try bolder things that are fundamentally different from QEMU. > > My big wish is that they don't try to merge the KVM tool into the > kernel code. It's a separate userspace project, and there's no reason > for it to be bundled with kernel code. It just makes the kernel > sources larger. In fact, the reverse is true as well: It makes kvm-tool's sources larger. Instead on just cloning a small repository I need to clone the whole kernel repository, even though I'm not a kernel developer and don't intend to touch anything but tools/kvm. Not too bad for me as I have a kernel repository lying around anyway and I can share most of the content, but there are people who don't. Still, having an additional 1.2 GB repository just for ~1 MB in which I'm really interested doesn't make me too happy. And dealing with a huge repository also means that even git becomes slower (which means, I had to turn off some functionality for my shell prompt in this repo, as I didn't like waiting for much more than a second or two) Makes it a lot less hackable for me unless you want to restrict the set of potential developers to Linux kernel developers... Kevin From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Kevin Wolf Subject: Re: [PATCH] KVM: Add wrapper script around QEMU to test kernels Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2011 11:31:17 +0100 Message-ID: <4EB7B375.4090904@redhat.com> References: <4EB67486.1070105@redhat.com> <4EB67D17.7000701@redhat.com> <4EB680D9.2070706@redhat.com> <4EB6AE34.2000907@redhat.com> <4EB6BAED.2030400@redhat.com> <4EB6BEFA.6000303@codemonkey.ws> <20111106183132.GA4500@thunk.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: "Ted Ts'o" , Anthony Liguori , Avi Kivity , Pekka Enberg , "kvm@vger.kernel.org list" , Return-path: In-Reply-To: <20111106183132.GA4500@thunk.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: qemu-devel-bounces+gceq-qemu-devel=gmane.org@nongnu.org Sender: qemu-devel-bounces+gceq-qemu-devel=gmane.org@nongnu.org List-Id: kvm.vger.kernel.org Am 06.11.2011 19:31, schrieb Ted Ts'o: > On Sun, Nov 06, 2011 at 11:08:10AM -0600, Anthony Liguori wrote: >> I'm quite happy with KVM tool and hope they continue working on it. >> My only real wish is that they wouldn't copy QEMU so much and would >> try bolder things that are fundamentally different from QEMU. > > My big wish is that they don't try to merge the KVM tool into the > kernel code. It's a separate userspace project, and there's no reason > for it to be bundled with kernel code. It just makes the kernel > sources larger. In fact, the reverse is true as well: It makes kvm-tool's sources larger. Instead on just cloning a small repository I need to clone the whole kernel repository, even though I'm not a kernel developer and don't intend to touch anything but tools/kvm. Not too bad for me as I have a kernel repository lying around anyway and I can share most of the content, but there are people who don't. Still, having an additional 1.2 GB repository just for ~1 MB in which I'm really interested doesn't make me too happy. And dealing with a huge repository also means that even git becomes slower (which means, I had to turn off some functionality for my shell prompt in this repo, as I didn't like waiting for much more than a second or two) Makes it a lot less hackable for me unless you want to restrict the set of potential developers to Linux kernel developers... Kevin