From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1754222Ab1KGLCq (ORCPT ); Mon, 7 Nov 2011 06:02:46 -0500 Received: from mail-yw0-f46.google.com ([209.85.213.46]:42055 "EHLO mail-yw0-f46.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1754109Ab1KGLCn (ORCPT ); Mon, 7 Nov 2011 06:02:43 -0500 Message-ID: <4EB7BACA.70006@redhat.com> Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2011 12:02:34 +0100 From: Paolo Bonzini User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110930 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: gmane.comp.emulators.qemu,gmane.comp.emulators.kvm.devel,gmane.linux.kernel To: Sasha Levin CC: Gerd Hoffmann , Blue Swirl , "kvm@vger.kernel.org list" , "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org List" , Alexander Graf , qemu-devel Developers , Pekka Enberg , Avi Kivity , =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Am=E9rico_Wang?= , Ingo Molnar , Linus Torvalds Subject: Re: [PATCH] KVM: Add wrapper script around QEMU to test kernels References: <1320543320-32728-1-git-send-email-agraf@suse.de> <4EB65C5B.8070709@redhat.com> <4EB66036.4080102@redhat.com> <1320577728.1428.73.camel@jaguar> <4EB67486.1070105@redhat.com> <4EB67D17.7000701@redhat.com> <4EB680D9.2070706@redhat.com> <877C82F4-F07C-44AA-8722-3AF57CFC4597@suse.de> <4EB7B1A9.9000409@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On 11/07/2011 11:30 AM, Sasha Levin wrote: > > In Linux we don't have that culture. No tool (except perf) lives in the > > kernel repo. I fail to see why kvm-tool is that much different from > > udev, util-linux, iproute, filesystem tools, that it should be included. > > tools/power was merged in just 2 versions ago, do you think that > merging that was a mistake? Indeed I do not see any advantage, since all the interfaces they use are stable anyway (sysfs, msr.ko). If they had gone in x86info, for example, my distro (F16, not exactly conservative) would have likely picked those tools up already, but it didn't. Paolo From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Paolo Bonzini Subject: Re: [PATCH] KVM: Add wrapper script around QEMU to test kernels Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2011 12:02:34 +0100 Message-ID: <4EB7BACA.70006@redhat.com> References: <1320543320-32728-1-git-send-email-agraf@suse.de> <4EB65C5B.8070709@redhat.com> <4EB66036.4080102@redhat.com> <1320577728.1428.73.camel@jaguar> <4EB67486.1070105@redhat.com> <4EB67D17.7000701@redhat.com> <4EB680D9.2070706@redhat.com> <877C82F4-F07C-44AA-8722-3AF57CFC4597@suse.de> <4EB7B1A9.9000409@redhat.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Pekka Enberg , "kvm@vger.kernel.org list" , "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org List" , Alexander Graf , qemu-devel Developers , Blue Swirl , Gerd Hoffmann , =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Am=E9rico_Wang?= , Ingo Molnar , Linus Torvalds , Avi Kivity To: Sasha Levin Return-path: In-Reply-To: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: qemu-devel-bounces+gceq-qemu-devel=gmane.org@nongnu.org Sender: qemu-devel-bounces+gceq-qemu-devel=gmane.org@nongnu.org List-Id: kvm.vger.kernel.org On 11/07/2011 11:30 AM, Sasha Levin wrote: > > In Linux we don't have that culture. No tool (except perf) lives in the > > kernel repo. I fail to see why kvm-tool is that much different from > > udev, util-linux, iproute, filesystem tools, that it should be included. > > tools/power was merged in just 2 versions ago, do you think that > merging that was a mistake? Indeed I do not see any advantage, since all the interfaces they use are stable anyway (sysfs, msr.ko). If they had gone in x86info, for example, my distro (F16, not exactly conservative) would have likely picked those tools up already, but it didn't. Paolo From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:52218) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RNMyV-00040l-Ob for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Mon, 07 Nov 2011 06:02:51 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RNMyR-0004JP-M5 for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Mon, 07 Nov 2011 06:02:47 -0500 Received: from mail-gy0-f173.google.com ([209.85.160.173]:47460) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RNMyR-0004JE-D9 for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Mon, 07 Nov 2011 06:02:43 -0500 Received: by gyb11 with SMTP id 11so4263404gyb.4 for ; Mon, 07 Nov 2011 03:02:43 -0800 (PST) Sender: Paolo Bonzini Message-ID: <4EB7BACA.70006@redhat.com> Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2011 12:02:34 +0100 From: Paolo Bonzini MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <1320543320-32728-1-git-send-email-agraf@suse.de> <4EB65C5B.8070709@redhat.com> <4EB66036.4080102@redhat.com> <1320577728.1428.73.camel@jaguar> <4EB67486.1070105@redhat.com> <4EB67D17.7000701@redhat.com> <4EB680D9.2070706@redhat.com> <877C82F4-F07C-44AA-8722-3AF57CFC4597@suse.de> <4EB7B1A9.9000409@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] KVM: Add wrapper script around QEMU to test kernels List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: Sasha Levin Cc: Pekka Enberg , "kvm@vger.kernel.org list" , "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org List" , Alexander Graf , qemu-devel Developers , Blue Swirl , Gerd Hoffmann , =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Am=E9rico_Wang?= , Ingo Molnar , Linus Torvalds , Avi Kivity On 11/07/2011 11:30 AM, Sasha Levin wrote: > > In Linux we don't have that culture. No tool (except perf) lives in the > > kernel repo. I fail to see why kvm-tool is that much different from > > udev, util-linux, iproute, filesystem tools, that it should be included. > > tools/power was merged in just 2 versions ago, do you think that > merging that was a mistake? Indeed I do not see any advantage, since all the interfaces they use are stable anyway (sysfs, msr.ko). If they had gone in x86info, for example, my distro (F16, not exactly conservative) would have likely picked those tools up already, but it didn't. Paolo