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From: Jiri Slaby <jslaby@suse.cz>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>, Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>
Subject: Re: sysfs regression: wrong link counts
Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 11:48:11 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4F27C6EB.2070305@suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m18vkoirv9.fsf@fess.ebiederm.org>

On 01/31/2012 02:27 AM, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> Greg KH <greg@kroah.com> writes:
> 
>> On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 10:10:59PM +0000, Alan Cox wrote:
>>>> Isn't there some other "proper" way of doing this in userspace, or is
>>>> this really the correct way?
>>>
>>> You can look at the S_IFMT bits and stuff however link count indicating
>>> number of subdirectories is a standard Unix thing and used by many quite
>>> mundane tools as an optimisation.
>>
>> Ah, yeah, that is easier.
>>
>> Eric, care to fix this or want me to revert it?
> 
> With respect to sensors the conversation has already been had, and I fix
> is already queued and should come out in the sensors release due out in
> a week or so.  So sensors should be fixed before this code is merged
> into Linus's kernel.

Oh, we are not going to break userspace with 3.3, are we? I understand
that what sensors do is nothing but sh*t. But this change should wait
until everybody has a chance to have fixed sensors package in their
distribution.

To be clear, what I'm suggesting is to postpone the change and schedule
it for something like 3.7.

> Now why something minor like sensors that nothing seems to depend
> strongly on should stop a system from booting is a huge question.

sensors do not prevent boot at all, of course. The other
cannot-start-network bug does.

> So I am going to have the conversation to triage what is up with
> systemd.  That seems totally unexpected.

Looks like netdev renaming problem, see my other mail.

thanks,
-- 
js
suse labs
.

  reply	other threads:[~2012-01-31 10:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-01-30 21:56 sysfs regression: wrong link counts Jiri Slaby
2012-01-30 22:06 ` Greg KH
2012-01-30 22:10   ` Alan Cox
2012-01-30 22:27     ` Greg KH
2012-01-30 22:43       ` Al Viro
2012-01-30 22:56         ` Al Viro
2012-01-31  1:27       ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-01-31 10:48         ` Jiri Slaby [this message]
2012-01-31 12:44           ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-01-31 16:45             ` Linus Torvalds
2012-01-31 19:18               ` Al Viro
2012-02-01  5:06               ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-02-01 22:21                 ` [PATCH] sysfs: Optionally count subdirectories to support buggy applications Eric W. Biederman
2012-02-01 22:24                   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2012-02-01 22:44                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-02-01 22:49                       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2012-02-01 22:31                   ` Dave Jones
2012-02-01 22:35                   ` Jiri Slaby
2012-02-01 23:15                   ` Linus Torvalds
2012-02-01 23:18                     ` Linus Torvalds
2012-02-02  1:22                       ` Al Viro
2012-02-02 21:24                         ` [RFC] killing boilerplate checks in ->link/->mkdir/->rename Al Viro
2012-02-02 23:46                           ` Linus Torvalds
2012-02-03  1:16                             ` Al Viro
2012-02-03  1:45                               ` Al Viro
2012-02-03  2:00                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-02-03 14:57                               ` Chris Mason
2012-02-03 17:08                               ` Al Viro
2012-02-03 19:34                                 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2012-02-06  8:50                                 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2012-02-06 13:56                                   ` Al Viro
2012-02-06 17:05                                     ` Artem Bityutskiy
2012-02-06 17:11                                       ` Al Viro
2012-02-07  7:21                                         ` Artem Bityutskiy
2012-02-06 22:49                               ` Dave Chinner
2012-02-03  8:25                           ` Andreas Dilger
2012-02-03 17:03                             ` Al Viro
2012-02-04  7:42                               ` Andreas Dilger
2012-03-05 13:30                       ` [PATCH] sysfs: Optionally count subdirectories to support buggy applications Jiri Slaby
2012-03-05 16:09                         ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2012-03-05 16:47                           ` Linus Torvalds
2012-03-08 21:05                             ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2012-03-08 22:18                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-03-08 23:40                               ` Linus Torvalds
2012-03-08 21:28                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-03-08 21:34                           ` [PATCH 1/3] sysfs: Compact sysfs_dirent s_flags into a byte Eric W. Biederman
2012-03-08 21:36                             ` [PATCH 2/3] sysfs: Maintain usable nlink directory counts Eric W. Biederman
2012-03-08 21:37                               ` [PATCH 3/3] sysfs: Remove SYSFS_FLAG_REMOVED and use sd->s_nlink == 0 instead Eric W. Biederman
2012-03-09  3:40                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-03-08 22:28                             ` [PATCH 1/3] sysfs: Compact sysfs_dirent s_flags into a byte Greg Kroah-Hartman
2012-03-09  2:49                               ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-01-31  3:45     ` sysfs regression: wrong link counts Eric W. Biederman
2012-01-31 11:54       ` Alan Cox
2012-01-30 22:52 ` Kay Sievers
2012-01-31 10:41   ` network regression: cannot rename netdev twice Jiri Slaby
2012-01-31 10:52     ` Kay Sievers
2012-01-31 11:00       ` Jiri Slaby
2012-01-31 11:13         ` Kay Sievers
2012-01-31 11:17           ` Jiri Slaby
2012-01-31 11:58             ` Kay Sievers
2012-01-31 14:18               ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-01-31 14:40                 ` [PATCH] sysfs: Update the name hash when renaming sysfs entries Eric W. Biederman
2012-01-31 14:41                   ` Jiri Slaby
2012-01-31 14:55                   ` Greg KH
2012-02-04  2:14       ` network regression: cannot rename netdev twice Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2012-02-06 20:03         ` Kay Sievers
2012-02-08  2:00           ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2012-02-08  3:50             ` Kay Sievers
2012-02-08  6:42               ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2012-02-08 10:57                 ` Kay Sievers
2012-02-08 20:06                   ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2012-02-08 20:27                     ` Stephen Hemminger
2012-02-08 23:48                     ` Kay Sievers
2012-01-31  1:32 ` sysfs regression: wrong link counts Eric W. Biederman
2012-02-01 18:29 ` Maciej Rutecki

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