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From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>
Cc: kwolf@redhat.com, Federico Simoncelli <fsimonce@redhat.com>,
	mtosatti@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/3] Add blkmirror block driver
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 14:47:03 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4F4B8957.7060404@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJSP0QUEy-Nyds7EM17QSyst2_6xEw9gjjSVyxGbp7E4scMv3A@mail.gmail.com>

On 02/27/2012 02:09 PM, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
> > Non-incremental mode is "pre-copy" migration.  It would stream in the
> > background from the source to the destination.  In this case:
> >
> > - you need to differentiate streaming writes from other writes.  When
> > streaming, you do not want to issue spurious writes to the source;
> >
> > - you can skip streaming anything that has been written to the
> > destination already.  This means that you need: 1) a bitmap similar to
> > is_allocated; 2) to widen writes to a cluster; 3) serialization similar
> > to copy-on-read.
> >
> > I'm not yet sure how much of this will be generalized in the block layer
> > and block/stream.c, and how much will be specific to blkmirror, but in
> > general none of this applies to blkverify.
> 
> Agreed but I'm not sure it has to do with blkmirror either.  blkmirror
> and blkverify perform the same function except that blkverify mirrors
> reads too and checks that they match.
> 
> Who knows when and if pre-copy will be (re)implemented, it's not a
> good argument to say let's duplicate block mirroring because we're not
> sure about the design of a feature feature yet which might want to
> hook in here.

It's not a duplicate, it just happens that two very simple drivers share
1 operation out of 4 (open, read, write, flush).  There are other
differences, for example:

1) blkverify hardcodes raw for one format and auto-detects the other.
blkmirror needs to have a specified format for both, and I don't think
starting another bikeshedding discussion on blkverify backwards
compatibility is a good idea;

2) blkverify doesn't flush the raw file;

3) blkverify in the future could add callbacks to create snapshots or
load/save imgstate, and forward them to the test file; this doesn't make
sense for blkmirror.

Paolo

  reply	other threads:[~2012-02-27 13:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 95+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-02-22 17:13 [Qemu-devel] Live Block Migration using Mirroring Federico Simoncelli
2012-02-22 17:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/3] Add blkmirror block driver Federico Simoncelli
2012-02-23 16:14   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-02-23 16:18     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-02-23 16:20       ` Federico Simoncelli
2012-02-23 16:28         ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-02-23 16:51           ` Federico Simoncelli
2012-02-23 16:18     ` Federico Simoncelli
2012-02-27  9:23     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-02-27 11:37       ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-27 11:42         ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-02-27 11:48           ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-27 13:09             ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-02-27 13:47               ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2012-02-27 14:49                 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-02-27 14:59                   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-02-27 15:08                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-22 17:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/3] Update the " Federico Simoncelli
2012-02-23  7:18   ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-23  9:44     ` Federico Simoncelli
2012-02-23  9:45       ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-22 17:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/3] Add nocreate option to snapshot_blkdev Federico Simoncelli
2012-02-23  7:19   ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-23  7:38     ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-23  9:39       ` Federico Simoncelli
2012-02-23  9:48         ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-23 10:19           ` Federico Simoncelli
2012-02-23 11:30             ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-23 15:47 ` [Qemu-devel] Live Block Migration using Mirroring Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-02-23 16:10   ` Federico Simoncelli
2012-02-23 16:35 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-02-23 17:06   ` Federico Simoncelli
2012-02-24 11:37 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/2] Add blkmirror block driver Federico Simoncelli
2012-02-24 11:37 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/2] Add the blockdev-reopen and blockdev-migrate commands Federico Simoncelli
2012-02-24 12:03   ` Kevin Wolf
2012-02-24 12:12     ` Federico Simoncelli
2012-02-24 13:11     ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-24 17:04     ` Luiz Capitulino
2012-02-27 14:57     ` Markus Armbruster
2012-02-24 16:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/2 v2] Add blkmirror block driver Federico Simoncelli
2012-02-24 17:02   ` Eric Blake
2012-02-24 17:15     ` Federico Simoncelli
2012-02-24 18:49     ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-24 18:17   ` Luiz Capitulino
2012-02-27  9:17     ` Federico Simoncelli
2012-02-24 16:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/2 v2] Add the blockdev-reopen and blockdev-migrate commands Federico Simoncelli
2012-02-24 17:46   ` Eric Blake
2012-02-24 18:57     ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-24 19:37       ` Eric Blake
2012-02-24 19:01   ` Luiz Capitulino
2012-02-24 19:40     ` Eric Blake
2012-02-24 20:26       ` Luiz Capitulino
2012-02-24 22:46         ` Eric Blake
2012-02-24 20:32     ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-24 20:36       ` Luiz Capitulino
2012-02-24 21:05         ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-24 22:30     ` Eric Blake
2012-02-25  6:47       ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-27 11:29     ` Federico Simoncelli
2012-02-27 12:12       ` Luiz Capitulino
2012-02-27 12:49         ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-27 13:06           ` Luiz Capitulino
2012-02-27 14:39             ` [Qemu-devel] drive transactions (was Re: [PATCH 2/2 v2] Add the blockdev-reopen and blockdev-migrate commands) Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-27 14:46               ` Anthony Liguori
2012-02-27 14:54                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-27 14:59                   ` Anthony Liguori
2012-02-27 15:03                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-27 15:06                       ` Anthony Liguori
2012-02-27 15:17                     ` Kevin Wolf
2012-02-27 15:24                       ` Anthony Liguori
2012-02-27 16:51                         ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-27 16:58                           ` Anthony Liguori
2012-02-27 17:06                             ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-27 16:33               ` Federico Simoncelli
2012-02-27 16:41                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-27 16:42                 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-02-27 16:50                   ` Federico Simoncelli
2012-02-27 16:53                     ` Anthony Liguori
2012-02-27 16:54                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-27 16:59                         ` Anthony Liguori
2012-02-27 17:37                   ` Luiz Capitulino
2012-02-28 15:47 ` [Qemu-devel] Live Block Migration using Mirroring Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-02-28 17:15   ` Federico Simoncelli
2012-02-28 17:36     ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-28 17:46       ` Federico Simoncelli
2012-02-28 18:02         ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-28 18:21           ` Federico Simoncelli
2012-02-28 17:26   ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-29 12:28   ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv3] Add blkmirror block driver Federico Simoncelli
2012-02-29 13:02     ` Federico Simoncelli
2012-02-29 17:01   ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv4] " Federico Simoncelli
2012-03-05 16:59 ` [Qemu-devel] Live Block Migration using Mirroring Marcelo Tosatti
2012-03-05 17:20   ` Eric Blake
2012-03-05 17:44     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2012-03-05 18:05       ` Paolo Bonzini

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