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From: Boaz Harrosh <bharrosh@panasas.com>
To: Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>, <keyrings@linux-nfs.org>,
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	NFS list <linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org>,
	Trond Myklebust <Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com>,
	"Bhamare, Sachin" <sbhamare@panasas.com>,
	David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	Eric Paris <eparis@redhat.com>,
	"Srivatsa S. Bhat" <srivatsa.bhat@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@vrfy.org>,
	James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCHSET 0/4] kmod: Optional timeout on the wait in call_usermodehelper_exec
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 17:18:01 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4F6A6FB9.7010508@panasas.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120321153519.GB30250@kroah.com>

On 03/21/2012 08:35 AM, Greg KH wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 04:18:49PM -0700, Boaz Harrosh wrote:
>> Andrew Hi
>>
>> I'm picking on you because I don't have any one else to pick on.
>> The 3 first patches here, are just good for today. Please see if
>> you would like to take them? or tell me who should take them?
>>
>> The 4th patch is an RFC, which got me looking into this.
>>
>> My motivation is that I added yet another Kernel dependency on the
>> call_usermodehelper() function and am not completely happy with the
>> error case of having the user-mode program stuck forever. In such
>> case I would like the Kernel part to timeout and properly error recover
>> and clean up. So therefor the proposed 4th patch.
> 
> What is this new use of call_usermodhelper that you are doing this work
> for?  Ideally, you never want to make this call, as it's slow and messy,
> as you have found out.  Is there an in-kernel user that you have
> recently added?
> 
> thanks,
> 
> greg k-h

I agree hence my comment in the 4th patch:
	"In the blasphemous occasions that a the Kernel must call a user-mode program"

I have added a new caller, to the nfs/objectlayoutdriver.ko that uses this
facility for auto-login into osd-targets (iscsi-targets) when new are requested
by the filesystem. This auto-login facility is mandated by the pnfs-objects
standard because in a large cluster filesystems for which pnfs was invented, storage
devices break and changed everyday, and a manual login by every client is not
feasible.

You can see this patch as posted to the mailing list here:
	http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.nfs/48024/match=login
	[title: pnfs-obj: autologin: Add support for protocol autologin]

It works very well and was heavily tested, with all error scenarios, but
the theoretical possibility that the user-mode program can be stuck forever
bothers me and I would like to do something about it. With this patch the
Kernel can recover cleanly and continue. I have actually tested this part
and it works as expected.

Thanks
Boaz

  reply	other threads:[~2012-03-22  0:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-03-20 23:18 [PATCHSET 0/4] kmod: Optional timeout on the wait in call_usermodehelper_exec Boaz Harrosh
2012-03-20 23:18 ` Boaz Harrosh
2012-03-20 23:23 ` [PATCH 1/4] kmod: Un-export call_usermodehelper_freeinfo() Boaz Harrosh
2012-03-20 23:23   ` Boaz Harrosh
2012-03-20 23:26 ` [PATCH 2/4] kmod: Convert two call sites to call_usermodehelper_fns() Boaz Harrosh
2012-03-20 23:26   ` Boaz Harrosh
2012-03-22  3:00   ` James Morris
2012-03-22  3:00     ` James Morris
2012-03-20 23:28 ` [PATCH 3/4] kmod: Move call_usermodehelper_fns() to .c file and unexport it's helpers Boaz Harrosh
2012-03-20 23:32 ` [RFC 4/4] {RFC} kmod.c: Add new call_usermodehelper_timeout() API Boaz Harrosh
2012-03-22  2:44   ` Boaz Harrosh
2012-03-22  2:48   ` Boaz Harrosh
2012-03-22  2:52     ` Boaz Harrosh
     [not found]       ` <201203241028.IGJ09825.MtOVFHFJQSLOFO@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>
     [not found]         ` <4F6D35F0.2020808@panasas.com>
     [not found]           ` <20120323200028.fadf49f8.akpm@linux-foundation.org>
     [not found]             ` <20120324145308.GA10023@redhat.com>
     [not found]               ` <201205191121.BIF57837.FHFOtMOLJQSOFV@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>
     [not found]                 ` <4FB7170F.7070807@panasas.com>
2012-05-21 17:01                   ` call_usermodehelper && check_hung_uninterruptible_tasks Oleg Nesterov
2012-05-21 18:24                     ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]                 ` <87fwau4aag.fsf@rustcorp.com.au>
2012-05-21 17:34                   ` UMH_WAIT_EXEC->UMH_WAIT_PROC deadlock Oleg Nesterov
2012-05-21 18:12                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-03-22 11:48     ` [RFC 4/4] {RFC} kmod.c: Add new call_usermodehelper_timeout()API Tetsuo Handa
2012-03-22 14:27     ` [RFC 4/4] {RFC} kmod.c: Add new call_usermodehelper_timeout() API Oleg Nesterov
2012-03-22 14:27       ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-03-22 14:42       ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-03-22 14:42         ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-03-22 19:08       ` Boaz Harrosh
2012-03-22 22:16         ` [RFC 4/4] {RFC} kmod.c: Add new call_usermodehelper_timeout()API Tetsuo Handa
2012-03-23  4:48           ` Boaz Harrosh
2012-03-23  5:23             ` Tetsuo Handa
2012-03-23  5:23               ` Tetsuo Handa
2012-03-23 16:30             ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-03-23 13:34         ` [RFC 4/4] {RFC} kmod.c: Add new call_usermodehelper_timeout() API Oleg Nesterov
2012-03-23 13:34           ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-03-21 15:35 ` [PATCHSET 0/4] kmod: Optional timeout on the wait in call_usermodehelper_exec Greg KH
2012-03-22  0:18   ` Boaz Harrosh [this message]
2012-03-22  0:31     ` Myklebust, Trond
2012-03-22  0:31       ` Myklebust, Trond
2012-03-22  0:31       ` Myklebust, Trond
2012-03-22  1:18       ` Boaz Harrosh
2012-03-22  1:18         ` Boaz Harrosh
2012-03-27  1:57 ` [PATCHSET 0/6 version 2] " Boaz Harrosh
2012-03-27  2:00   ` [PATCH 1/6] kmod: Unexport call_usermodehelper_freeinfo() Boaz Harrosh
2012-03-27  2:00     ` Boaz Harrosh
2012-03-27  2:02   ` [PATCH 2/6] kmod: Convert two call sites to call_usermodehelper_fns() Boaz Harrosh
2012-03-27  2:04   ` [PATCH 3/6] kmod: Move call_usermodehelper_fns() to .c file and unexport all it's helpers Boaz Harrosh
2012-03-27  2:06   ` [PATCH 4/6 OPTION-A] completion: Add new wait_for_completion_timeout_state Boaz Harrosh
2012-03-27  2:06     ` Boaz Harrosh
2012-03-27  2:33     ` [PATCH 4/6 OPTION-A version 3] " Boaz Harrosh
2012-03-27  8:11       ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-03-27  8:11         ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-03-28 18:19         ` Boaz Harrosh
2012-03-28 18:19           ` Boaz Harrosh
2012-03-28 18:25           ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-03-28 18:25             ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-03-28 17:38       ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-03-27  2:09   ` [PATCH 4/6 option-B] kmod: add new wait_for_completion_timeout_state() helper Boaz Harrosh
2012-03-27  2:13   ` [PATCH 5/6] kmod: Add new call_usermodehelper_timeout() API Boaz Harrosh
2012-03-27 15:43     ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-03-27 15:43       ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-03-28 17:04       ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-03-27  2:15   ` [PATCH 6/6] kmod: optional: Convert the use of xchg to a kref Boaz Harrosh
2012-03-28 16:35     ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-03-27 21:07   ` [PATCHSET 0/6 version 2] kmod: Optional timeout on the wait in call_usermodehelper_exec Andrew Morton
2012-03-27 21:07     ` Andrew Morton
2012-03-28 20:19     ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-03-28 21:42       ` Boaz Harrosh

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