From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-path: Received: from mout0.freenet.de ([195.4.92.90]:57820 "EHLO mout0.freenet.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752302Ab2DOMFb (ORCPT ); Sun, 15 Apr 2012 08:05:31 -0400 Received: from [195.4.92.142] (helo=mjail2.freenet.de) by mout0.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID andihartmann@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.76 #1) id 1SJOCv-00055j-Ti for linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org; Sun, 15 Apr 2012 14:05:29 +0200 Received: from localhost ([::1]:57551 helo=mjail2.freenet.de) by mjail2.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID andihartmann@freenet.de) (Exim 4.76 #1) id 1SJOCv-0007Aj-Pm for linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org; Sun, 15 Apr 2012 14:05:29 +0200 Received: from [195.4.92.23] (port=37156 helo=13.mx.freenet.de) by mjail2.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID andihartmann@freenet.de) (Exim 4.76 #1) id 1SJOAq-0006T1-EC for linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org; Sun, 15 Apr 2012 14:03:20 +0200 Received: from [2002:4fde:769:2:5054:ff:feb8:40bd] (port=47725 helo=mail.maya.org) by 13.mx.freenet.de with esmtpsa (ID andihartmann@freenet.de) (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (port 25) (Exim 4.76 #1) id 1SJOAq-00024P-1I for linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org; Sun, 15 Apr 2012 14:03:20 +0200 Message-ID: <4F8AB8F9.4060503@01019freenet.de> (sfid-20120415_140603_932184_494F97D0) Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2012 14:03:05 +0200 From: Andreas Hartmann MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Xose Vazquez Perez CC: linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org, users@rt2x00.serialmonkey.com, IvDoorn@gmail.com, linville@tuxdriver.com, gwingerde@gmail.com, helmut.schaa@googlemail.com Subject: Re: [rt2x00-users] [PATCH] wireless: rt2x00: rt2800usb add more devices ids References: <1334448592-16391-1-git-send-email-xose.vazquez@gmail.com> <4F8A6CB6.4080006@01019freenet.de> <4F8A92A5.8090707@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4F8A92A5.8090707@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Sender: linux-wireless-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: Hello Xose, sorry for double post - I accidentally pressed the wrong answer button :-(. Xose Vazquez Perez wrote: > On 04/15/2012 08:37 AM, Andreas Hartmann wrote: > >> Did you test them? What did you test exactly? What exactly works, what >> does not? > > NO. NOTHING . I DON'T KNOW. But... > >> It doesn't mean anything, if they work with the legacy driver. > > ..., the chips in these devices are *identified* . They perform so well > or so badly like those that are already in the driver(rt2800usb). This is an expectation. The mentioned WUSB600Nv2 is one proof, that it isn't (always) enough to successfully identify chips and derive, that it behaves like other brands using the same chip. There have been brands with this chip, which have been working fine (supposedly), but this special brand didn't work at all here - even though it uses an already known chip. >> Linksys WUSB600Nv2 e.g. works fine with the legacy driver, but only >> limited (if at all) with rt2800usb yet. > > > > config RT2800USB_RT35XX > bool "rt2800usb - Include support for rt35xx devices ( *EXPERIMENTAL* )" > depends on *EXPERIMENTAL* Chance :-) rt2860 (PCI) chipset (rt2800pci) isn't experimental but is nevertheless broken since 3.2 [1]. I'm seeing a fundamental problem (but not just here :-)) regarding QA. I can't see any QA if there is done any change. Ok, I don't know all and maybe, I'm blind, too. But I'm willing to learn . That's why I'm wondering: When are all these appropriate devices going to be tested? I think, a good point would be during development and not after they have been released (means: "experimental" was removed). If the ID's are committed, it should be ensured, that they really behave as expected. Kind regards, Andreas [1] http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel.wireless.general/83297/focus=83304