From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753244Ab2EMWTa (ORCPT ); Sun, 13 May 2012 18:19:30 -0400 Received: from ironport-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.143.162]:11607 "EHLO ironport-out.teksavvy.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752693Ab2EMWT3 (ORCPT ); Sun, 13 May 2012 18:19:29 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApMBACxOgk8Y9geI/2dsb2JhbAANNoVztlABAQEBAyNVARALGAICBRYLAgIJAwIBAgFFBg0BBQIBAYYNrheKGIEvjhOBGASpJYFA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.75,391,1330923600"; d="scan'208";a="180027119" Message-ID: <4FB0336F.9050600@teksavvy.com> Date: Sun, 13 May 2012 18:19:27 -0400 From: Mark Lord User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120428 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Linus Torvalds CC: Sasha Levin , Kay Sievers , Greg KH , Yinghai Lu , Joe Perches , Ingo Molnar , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH RESEND 1/3] printk: convert byte-buffer to variable-length record buffer References: <1336571457.30189.29.camel@joe2Laptop> <20120509230649.GA10695@kroah.com> <1336617045.25027.2.camel@mop> <20120511151944.GA6990@kroah.com> <4FAFB57C.40906@teksavvy.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On 12-05-13 02:01 PM, Linus Torvalds wrote: > On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 6:22 AM, Mark Lord wrote: >> >> Look in syslog ? > > That usually requires root permission, so it's an extra (annoying) > step. It also gives all kinds or other mostly irrelevant information > for a kernel person. > > Besides, according to the same argument, dmesg shouldn't have times > *at*all*. So the "look in your syslog" is pointless for discussing the > dmesg timestamp. It's good for dates. Not as good for times. I figure anyone trying to diagnose a kernel issue already has access to /var/log/ as well. :) But it's good as you propose with an option. Cheers