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From: Rick Jones <rick.jones2@hp.com>
To: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
Cc: Ben Greear <greearb@candelatech.com>,
	Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@vyatta.com>,
	Tom Parkin <tparkin@katalix.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, David.Laight@ACULAB.COM,
	James Chapman <jchapman@katalix.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] l2tp: use per-cpu variables for u64_stats updates
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 16:01:23 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4FEB90C3.9050607@hp.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1340832947.26242.169.camel@edumazet-glaptop>

On 06/27/2012 02:35 PM, Eric Dumazet wrote:
> On Wed, 2012-06-27 at 14:31 -0700, Ben Greear wrote:
>
>> For an example, see the VLAN code. rx-errors and tx-dropped are only 32-bit
>> counters.  Now, in the real world, we wouldn't expect those counters to
>> increase at high rates, but they are still 32-bit counters masquerading
>> as 64, and they could wrap after a while, so any code that expected a wrap
>> to mean a 64-bit wrap would be wrong.
>>
>> At the time I was last complaining, there were lots more cases
>> of this that I was fighting with, but I don't recall exactly what they
>> were.  Once my user-space code got paranoid enough, it was able to
>> at least mostly deal with 32 and 64 wraps.
>
> Good, you now know how to deal correctly with these things.
>
> Using 64bit fields for tx_dropped is what I call kernel bloat.

Today, sure, generalizing to packet counters in general, that bloat is 
likely on its way.  At 100 Gbit/s Ethernet, that is upwards of 147 
million packets per second each way.  At 1 GbE it is 125 million octets 
per second.  So, if 32 bit octet counters were insufficient for 1 GbE, 
32 bit packet counters likely will be insufficient for 100GbE.

Or, I suppose, 3 or more bonded 40 GbEs or 10 or more bonded 10 GbEs 
(unlikely though that last one may be) assuming there is stats 
aggregation in the bond interface.

rick jones

  reply	other threads:[~2012-06-27 23:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-06-27 12:00 [PATCH v2] l2tp: use per-cpu variables for u64_stats updates Tom Parkin
2012-06-27 19:03 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-06-27 20:21   ` Rick Jones
2012-06-27 20:39     ` Eric Dumazet
2012-06-27 20:50       ` Stephen Hemminger
2012-06-27 20:58         ` Ben Greear
2012-06-27 21:20           ` Eric Dumazet
2012-06-27 21:31             ` Ben Greear
2012-06-27 21:35               ` Eric Dumazet
2012-06-27 23:01                 ` Rick Jones [this message]
2012-06-27 23:09                   ` David Miller
2012-06-27 23:39                     ` Rick Jones
2012-06-28  5:00                   ` Eric Dumazet
2012-06-28  8:24                     ` Tom Parkin
2012-06-28  8:46                     ` David Laight
2012-06-28 18:17                       ` Ben Hutchings
2012-06-27 21:32             ` Eric Dumazet
2012-06-27 21:40               ` Ben Greear
2012-06-27 21:50                 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-06-27 21:00       ` Rick Jones
2012-06-27 22:21       ` David Miller

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