From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.90_1) id 1l3W8y-0001kI-Ue for mharc-grub-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 23 Jan 2021 22:32:52 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:58534) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l3W8w-0001k7-Q2 for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 23 Jan 2021 22:32:50 -0500 Received: from mail109.syd.optusnet.com.au ([211.29.132.80]:55021) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l3W8t-0007Br-N1 for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 23 Jan 2021 22:32:50 -0500 Received: from [192.168.0.10] (unknown [110.32.125.44]) (Authenticated sender: hpvpp@optusnet.com.au) by mail109.syd.optusnet.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C57F888A5; Sun, 24 Jan 2021 14:32:40 +1100 (AEDT) Subject: Re: need hostname on menu To: John Paul Adrian Glaubitz Cc: The development of GNU GRUB References: <968fe2d7-e30f-7c50-e425-9366553d4508@optusnet.com.au> <68ad9bf5-e814-5e28-8e87-bd67241574fe@physik.fu-berlin.de> From: Humphrey van Polanen Petel Message-ID: <4b096da9-39c5-c74a-1e02-d517970d231c@optusnet.com.au> Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2021 14:32:39 +1100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.10.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <68ad9bf5-e814-5e28-8e87-bd67241574fe@physik.fu-berlin.de> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------252BCCF234A84FD8A84FE7B0" Content-Language: en-US X-Optus-CM-Score: 0 X-Optus-CM-Analysis: v=2.3 cv=F8MpiZpN c=1 sm=1 tr=0 cx=a_idp_d a=iX/8SjJMN17b1Hg7kHkbMA==:117 a=iX/8SjJMN17b1Hg7kHkbMA==:17 a=RSmzAf-M6YYA:10 a=r77TgQKjGQsHNAKrUKIA:9 a=O3B5ghewWY72-PNJyS8A:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=FPwEv5VlAAAA:8 a=ImdkG5glLAd7uSHrrj4A:9 a=vaIi3tSrh7SupH_C:21 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=7Qi5LXvFUY5DQGGPUEll:22 Received-SPF: pass client-ip=211.29.132.80; envelope-from=hpvpp@optusnet.com.au; helo=mail109.syd.optusnet.com.au X-Spam_score_int: -25 X-Spam_score: -2.6 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, NICE_REPLY_A=-0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: grub-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: The development of GNU GRUB List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2021 03:32:51 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------252BCCF234A84FD8A84FE7B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, Whether it is a trivial problem or not I am not qualified to comment on, but it nevertheless seems to me that being able to identify at boot a systemby the name by which it is know is of obvious benefit simply because mnemonics are most easily remembered. And if you wish to call this a "rather exotic problem" then I would like to point out that it is not up to the developers, but to the users to determine how they use their system. Humphrey We are but sheep and here to be fleeced On 24/1/21 11:57 am, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > Hello! > > On 1/24/21 1:52 AM, Humphrey van Polanen Petel wrote: >> However, it seems to me that it would be a lot more useful to add a parameter >> allowing the user to display the name of the install from /etc/hostname. > GRUB is a universal bootloader which supports multiple platforms and operating > systems. I'm not sure it would be trivial to implement such a feature for all > possible target configurations that GRUB support just to solve this rather exotic > problem you are describing here. > > Adrian > --------------252BCCF234A84FD8A84FE7B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

Hi,

Whether it is a trivial problem or not I am not qualified to comment on, but it nevertheless seems to me that being able to identify at boot a system by the name by which it is know is of obvious benefit simply because mnemonics are most easily remembered.

And if you wish to call this a "rather exotic problem" then I would like to point out that it is not up to the developers, but to the users to determine how they use their system. 

Humphrey

We are but sheep and here to be fleeced
On 24/1/21 11:57 am, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
Hello!

On 1/24/21 1:52 AM, Humphrey van Polanen Petel wrote:

However, it seems to me that it would be a lot more useful to add a parameter
allowing the user to display the name of the install from /etc/hostname.

GRUB is a universal bootloader which supports multiple platforms and operating
systems. I'm not sure it would be trivial to implement such a feature for all
possible target configurations that GRUB support just to solve this rather exotic
problem you are describing here.

Adrian
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