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From: Till Kamppeter <till.kamppeter@gmail.com>
To: Zdenek Dohnal <zdohnal@redhat.com>, Michael Sweet <msweet@msweet.org>
Cc: "printing-architecture@lists.linux-foundation.org"
	<printing-architecture@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	Jai Luthra <luthrajaiji@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Printing-architecture] Automatic printer setup with Printer Applications
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2021 10:24:28 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4c554835-e8f7-3399-098d-11718beb020c@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b6f4687d-fe34-c3e7-d378-a07405dc936e@redhat.com>

On 25/02/2021 09:52, Zdenek Dohnal wrote:
> Sounds reasonable, except for crying in beer! That's never reasonable
> around here :D
> 
> So udev-configure-printer would:
> 
> 1) check if there is a USB device - if it is IPP-over-USB and isn't in
> allow list (probably there will be devices which will present themselves
> as IPP-over-USB, but it will be broken, so they want to fall back to
> printer application...), break out
> 
> 2) find a printer application which supports the device
> 
> 3) if it is not installed, install it - this will need to be updated -
> currently PackageKit is used in scp lib, but PackageKit is going away in
> the future [1] - I heard there is some work in DNF regarding PackageKit
> functionality, but I'm not sure how far they are. Not mentioning it is a
> distro specific package manager, not sure if other distros have already
> some alternative to PackageKit.
>

Here we should not only consider distro-specific RPM and DEB packages 
but also distro-independent packaging, like Snap, as Printer 
Applications should also serve for hardware manufacturers to easily 
create distro-independent driver packages, one for all.

Central repositories, like the Snap Store would need some 
hardware-signature-based search, see

https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/hardware-associated-snaps-snap-store-search-by-hardware-signature/

> 4) auto-add the device to a printer application - scp lib for adding
> print queues is now for CUPS only and written in Python, so it will need
> to be rewritten in C/Go using PAPPL.
> 

Zdenek, could you update your GSoC project idea if needed?

https://wiki.linuxfoundation.org/gsoc/google-summer-code-2021-openprinting-projects#turn_the_scp-dbus-service_methods_-_getbestdrivers_and_missingexecutables_-_of_system-config-printer_into_c

    Till

  reply	other threads:[~2021-02-25  9:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-02-23 19:27 [Printing-architecture] Automatic printer setup with Printer Applications Till Kamppeter
2021-02-24  7:37 ` Johannes Meixner
2021-02-24  8:03 ` Zdenek Dohnal
2021-02-24 11:25   ` Till Kamppeter
2021-02-24 12:01     ` Johannes Meixner
2021-02-24 13:51       ` Till Kamppeter
2021-02-25 10:30         ` Johannes Meixner
2021-02-25 13:37           ` Till Kamppeter
2021-02-25 14:00             ` Johannes Meixner
2021-02-25 13:53           ` Michael Sweet
2021-02-24 12:48     ` Solomon Peachy
2021-02-24 14:01       ` Johannes Meixner
2021-02-24 17:23         ` Till Kamppeter
2021-02-26  9:17           ` Johannes Meixner
2021-02-24 14:17       ` Till Kamppeter
2021-02-25 15:28         ` Solomon Peachy
2021-02-25 22:54           ` Till Kamppeter
2021-02-26 14:59             ` Solomon Peachy
2021-02-25  8:28       ` Zdenek Dohnal
2021-02-25 14:54         ` Solomon Peachy
2021-02-26 10:03           ` Johannes Meixner
2021-02-26 12:28             ` Solomon Peachy
2021-02-27 21:07               ` Michael Sweet
2021-02-24 14:17 ` Michael Sweet
2021-02-24 14:46   ` Johannes Meixner
2021-02-24 18:47     ` Till Kamppeter
2021-02-24 17:40   ` Till Kamppeter
2021-02-24 17:48     ` Michael Sweet
2021-02-24 19:21       ` Till Kamppeter
2021-02-24 20:01         ` Michael Sweet
2021-02-24 20:15           ` Till Kamppeter
2021-02-25  8:52   ` Zdenek Dohnal
2021-02-25  9:24     ` Till Kamppeter [this message]
2021-02-25  9:54       ` Zdenek Dohnal
2021-02-25 13:43       ` Michael Sweet
2021-02-25 19:39         ` Till Kamppeter
2021-02-25 13:33     ` Michael Sweet
2021-02-25 15:24       ` Till Kamppeter
2021-02-25 15:30         ` Michael Sweet
2021-02-25 21:51           ` Till Kamppeter
2021-03-02 10:58 ` [Printing-architecture] Future of Printer Setup Tools Till Kamppeter
2021-03-02 12:04   ` Johannes Meixner
2021-03-02 22:52     ` Till Kamppeter

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