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From: Konstantin Khlebnikov <khlebnikov@yandex-team.ru>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Vladimir Davydov <vdavydov.dev@gmail.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>,
	Roman Gushchin <guro@fb.com>,
	linux-api@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC] mm/madvise: implement MADV_STOCKPILE (kswapd from user space)
Date: Tue, 28 May 2019 11:58:49 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4ecf491b-68b5-9a65-5074-648a4f94d2b0@yandex-team.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190528084243.GT1658@dhcp22.suse.cz>

On 28.05.2019 11:42, Michal Hocko wrote:
> On Tue 28-05-19 11:04:46, Konstantin Khlebnikov wrote:
>> On 28.05.2019 10:38, Michal Hocko wrote:
> [...]
>>> Could you define the exact semantic? Ideally something for the manual
>>> page please?
>>>
>>
>> Like kswapd which works with thresholds of free memory this one reclaims
>> until 'free' (i.e. memory which could be allocated without invoking
>> direct recliam of any kind) is lower than passed 'size' argument.
> 
> s@lower@higher@ I guess

Yep. My wording still bad.
'size' argument should be called 'watermark' or 'threshold'.

I.e. reclaim while 'free' memory is lower passed 'threshold'.

> 
>> Thus right after madvise(NULL, size, MADV_STOCKPILE) 'size' bytes
>> could be allocated in this memory cgroup without extra latency from
>> reclaimer if there is no other memory consumers.
>>
>> Reclaimed memory is simply put into free lists in common buddy allocator,
>> there is no reserves for particular task or cgroup.
>>
>> If overall memory allocation rate is smooth without rough spikes then
>> calling MADV_STOCKPILE in loop periodically provides enough room for
>> allocations and eliminates direct reclaim from all other tasks.
>> As a result this eliminates unpredictable delays caused by
>> direct reclaim in random places.
> 
> OK, this makes it more clear to me. Thanks for the clarification!
> I have clearly misunderstood and misinterpreted target as the reclaim
> target rather than free memory target.  Sorry about the confusion.
> I sill think that this looks like an abuse of the madvise but if there
> is a wider consensus this is acceptable I will not stand in the way.
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2019-05-28  8:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-05-27 10:05 [PATCH RFC] mm/madvise: implement MADV_STOCKPILE (kswapd from user space) Konstantin Khlebnikov
2019-05-27 14:12 ` Michal Hocko
2019-05-27 14:21   ` Michal Hocko
2019-05-27 14:30     ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2019-05-27 14:39     ` Michal Hocko
2019-05-28  6:25       ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2019-05-28  6:51         ` Michal Hocko
2019-05-28  7:30           ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2019-05-28  7:38             ` Michal Hocko
2019-05-28  8:04               ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2019-05-28  8:42                 ` Michal Hocko
2019-05-28  8:58                   ` Konstantin Khlebnikov [this message]
2019-05-28 14:56                   ` Shakeel Butt
2019-05-28 14:56                     ` Shakeel Butt

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