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From: Wido den Hollander <wido@widodh.nl>
To: Calvin Morrow <calvin.morrow@gmail.com>
Cc: ceph-devel <ceph-devel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] docs: Add CloudStack documentation
Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2012 17:28:46 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <50476FAE.8030107@widodh.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CADxhoDR-3guBfFXc_QSmvPthVp5R=vS9tB2zpn-WRaLCSAu=ZA@mail.gmail.com>

On 09/05/2012 05:21 PM, Calvin Morrow wrote:
> I saw the limitations section references only being able to configure
> a single monitor.  Some followup questions for someone interested in
> using RBD with Cloudstack 4:
>
> Is it that you can only specify a single monitor to connect to within
> Cloudstack 4 (but can still have a 3 monitor configuration) ... or
> must you only have a single monitor for some reason?
>

You can only specify one monitor in CloudStack, but your cluster can 
have multiple.

This is due to the internals of CloudStack. It stores storage pools in a 
URI format, like: rbd://admin:secret@1.2.3.4/rbd

In that format there is no way of storing multiple monitors.

> If you have a ceph.conf on the kvm nodes with more monitors, will it
> pick up on the additional monitors?
>

That is a good question, I'm not sure, but I wouldn't recommend it. It 
could confuse you.

With CloudStack two components are involved:
* libvirt with a storage pool
* Qemu connecting to RBD

Both could read the ceph.conf since librbd does it, but I don't know if 
it will pick up any additional monitors.

> Is it possible to use a "floating" ip address resource in a pacemaker
> configuration for the CloudStack "monitor" IP address?  Is there any
> other way around a single-monitor point of failure?
>

Your Virtual Machines will not stop functioning if that monitor dies. As 
soon as librbd connects it receives the full monitor map and it functions.

You won't be able to start instances or do any RBD operations as long as 
that monitor is down.

I don't know if you can use VRRP for a monitor, but it wouldn't put all 
the effort in it.

It's on my roadmap to implement RBD layering in a upcoming CloudStack 
release, since the whole storage layer is getting a make-over.

This should enable me to also tune caching settings per pool and 
probably sqeeuze in a way to use multiple monitors as well.

I'm aiming for CloudStack 4.1 or 4.2 for this to be implemented.

> Thanks for your hard work and any guidance you can provide!
>

You're welcome!

Wido

> Calvin
>
> On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 3:51 PM, Wido den Hollander <wido@widodh.nl> wrote:
>>
>> The basic documentation about how you can use RBD with CloudStack
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Wido den Hollander <wido@widodh.nl>
>> ---
>>   doc/rbd/rbd-cloudstack.rst |   49
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>   doc/rbd/rbd.rst            |    2 +-
>>   2 files changed, 50 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
>>   create mode 100644 doc/rbd/rbd-cloudstack.rst
>>
>> diff --git a/doc/rbd/rbd-cloudstack.rst b/doc/rbd/rbd-cloudstack.rst
>> new file mode 100644
>> index 0000000..04e1a7c
>> --- /dev/null
>> +++ b/doc/rbd/rbd-cloudstack.rst
>> @@ -0,0 +1,49 @@
>> +===================
>> + RBD and Apache CloudStack
>> +===================
>> +You can use RBD to run instances on in Apache CloudStack.
>> +
>> +This can be done by adding a RBD pool as Primary Storage.
>> +
>> +There are a couple of prerequisites:
>> +* You need to CloudStack 4.0 or higher
>> +* Qemu on the Hypervisor has to be compiled with RBD enabled
>> +* The libvirt version on the Hypervisor has to be at least 0.10 with RBD
>> enabled
>> +
>> +Make sure you meet this requirements before installing the CloudStack
>> Agent on the Hypervisor(s)!
>> +
>> +.. important:: To use RBD with CloudStack, you must have a running Ceph
>> cluster!
>> +
>> +Limitations
>> +-------------
>> +Running instances from RBD has a couple of limitations:
>> +
>> +* An additional NFS Primary Storage pool is required for running System
>> VM's
>> +* Snapshotting RBD volumes is not possible (at this moment)
>> +* Only one monitor can be configured
>> +
>> +Add Hypervisor
>> +-------------
>> +Please follow the official CloudStack documentation how to do this.
>> +
>> +There is no special way of adding a Hypervisor when using RBD, nor is any
>> configuration needed on the hypervisor.
>> +
>> +Add RBD Primary Storage
>> +-------------
>> +Once the hypervisor has been added, log on to the CloudStack UI.
>> +
>> +* Infrastructure
>> +* Primary Storage
>> +* "Add Primary Storage"
>> +* Select "Protocol" RBD
>> +* Fill in your cluster information (cephx is supported)
>> +* Optionally add the tag 'rbd'
>> +
>> +Now you should be able to deploy instances on RBD.
>> +
>> +RBD Disk Offering
>> +-------------
>> +Create a special "Disk Offering" which needs to match the tag 'rbd' so
>> you can make sure the StoragePoolAllocator
>> +chooses the RBD pool when searching for a suiteable storage pool.
>> +
>> +Since there is also a NFS storage pool it's possible that instances get
>> deployed on NFS instead of RBD.
>> diff --git a/doc/rbd/rbd.rst b/doc/rbd/rbd.rst
>> index af1682f..6fd1999 100644
>> --- a/doc/rbd/rbd.rst
>> +++ b/doc/rbd/rbd.rst
>> @@ -31,7 +31,7 @@ the Ceph FS filesystem, and RADOS block devices
>> simultaneously.
>>          QEMU and RBD <qemu-rbd>
>>          libvirt <libvirt>
>>          RBD and OpenStack <rbd-openstack>
>> -
>> +       RBD and CloudStack <rbd-cloudstack>
>>
>>
>>
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  reply	other threads:[~2012-09-05 15:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-08-08 21:51 [PATCH] docs: Add CloudStack documentation Wido den Hollander
2012-09-04 23:49 ` Sage Weil
2012-09-05 15:21 ` Calvin Morrow
2012-09-05 15:28   ` Wido den Hollander [this message]
2012-09-05 15:42     ` Sage Weil
2012-09-05 16:14     ` Tommi Virtanen
2012-09-05 17:05       ` Wido den Hollander
2012-09-05 18:22         ` Tommi Virtanen
2012-09-05 22:39           ` Wido den Hollander
2012-09-05 22:52             ` Tommi Virtanen

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