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From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 00/17] Support for multiple "AIO contexts"
Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2012 15:00:04 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5072CE54.8020208@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20121008113932.GB16332@stefanha-thinkpad.redhat.com>

Il 08/10/2012 13:39, Stefan Hajnoczi ha scritto:
> This series looks useful - it compartmentalizes aio.c so there can be multiple
> event loops.  In order to get a performance benefit (hooking up virtio-blk
> ioeventfd to a non-QEMU mutex thread) we need two more things:
> 
> 1. Block layer association with an AioContext (perhaps BlockDriverState <->
>    AioContext attaching).

Right.  This governs which AioContext the bottom halves are created on,
mostly.  Plus, all block devices along the ->file and ->backing_hd
chains need to belong to the same AioContext.

> 2. Thread pool for dispatching I/O requests outside the QEMU global mutex.

I looked at this in the past and it feels like a dead end to me.  I had
a lot of special code in the thread-pool to mimic yield/enter of
threadpool work-items.  It was needed mostly for I/O throttling, but
also because it feels unsafe to swap a CoMutex with a Mutex---the
waiting I/O operations can starve the threadpool.

I now think it is simpler to keep a cooperative coroutine-based
multitasking in the general case.  At the same time you can ensure that
AIO formats (both Linux and posix-aio-compat) gets a suitable
no-coroutine fast path in the common case of no copy-on-read, no
throttling, etc. -- which can be done in the current code too.

Another important step would be to add bdrv_drain.  Kevin pointed out to
me that only ->file and ->backing_hd need to be drained.  Well, there
may be other BlockDriverStates for vmdk extents or similar cases
(Benoit's quorum device for example)... these need to be handled the
same way for bdrv_flush, bdrv_reopen, bdrv_drain so perhaps it is useful
to add a common way to get them.

And you need a lock to the AioContext, too.  Then the block device can
we the AioContext lock in order to synchronize multiple threads working
on the block device.  The lock will effectively block the ioeventfd
thread, so that bdrv_lock+bdrv_drain+...+bdrv_unlock is a replacement
for the current usage of bdrv_drain_all within the QEMU lock.

> I'm starting to work on these steps and will send RFCs. This series
> looks good to me.

Thanks!  A lot of the next steps can be done in parallel and more
importantly none of them blocks each other (roughly)... so I'm eager to
look at your stuff! :)

Paolo

  reply	other threads:[~2012-10-08 13:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-09-25 12:55 [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 00/17] Support for multiple "AIO contexts" Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-25 12:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 01/17] build: do not rely on indirect inclusion of qemu-config.h Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-25 12:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 02/17] event_notifier: enable it to use pipes Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-08  7:03   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-09-25 12:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 03/17] event_notifier: add Win32 implementation Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-25 12:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 04/17] aio: change qemu_aio_set_fd_handler to return void Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-25 21:47   ` Anthony Liguori
2012-09-25 12:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 05/17] aio: provide platform-independent API Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-25 21:48   ` Anthony Liguori
2012-09-25 12:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 06/17] aio: introduce AioContext, move bottom halves there Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-25 21:51   ` Anthony Liguori
2012-09-26  6:30     ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-25 12:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 07/17] aio: add I/O handlers to the AioContext interface Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-25 12:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 08/17] aio: add non-blocking variant of aio_wait Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-25 21:56   ` Anthony Liguori
2012-09-25 12:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 09/17] aio: prepare for introducing GSource-based dispatch Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-25 22:01   ` Anthony Liguori
2012-09-26  6:36     ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-26  6:48     ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-29 11:28   ` Blue Swirl
2012-10-01  6:40     ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-25 12:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/17] aio: add Win32 implementation Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-25 12:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 11/17] aio: make AioContexts GSources Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-25 22:06   ` Anthony Liguori
2012-09-26  6:40     ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-25 12:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 12/17] aio: add aio_notify Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-25 22:07   ` Anthony Liguori
2012-09-25 12:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 13/17] aio: call aio_notify after setting I/O handlers Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-25 22:07   ` Anthony Liguori
2012-09-25 12:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 14/17] main-loop: use GSource to poll AIO file descriptors Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-25 22:09   ` Anthony Liguori
2012-09-26  6:38     ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-25 12:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 15/17] main-loop: use aio_notify for qemu_notify_event Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-25 22:10   ` Anthony Liguori
2012-09-25 12:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 16/17] aio: clean up now-unused functions Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-25 22:11   ` Anthony Liguori
2012-09-25 12:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 17/17] linux-aio: use event notifiers Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-26 12:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 00/17] Support for multiple "AIO contexts" Kevin Wolf
2012-09-26 13:32   ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-26 14:31     ` Kevin Wolf
2012-09-26 15:48       ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-27  7:11         ` Kevin Wolf
2012-09-27  7:43           ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-08 11:39 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-10-08 13:00   ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2012-10-09  9:08     ` [Qemu-devel] Block I/O outside the QEMU global mutex was "Re: [RFC PATCH 00/17] Support for multiple "AIO contexts"" Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-10-09  9:26       ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-09 10:36         ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-09 10:52           ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-09 11:08             ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-09 11:55               ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-09 12:01                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-09 12:18                   ` Jan Kiszka
2012-10-09 12:28                     ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-09 12:22                   ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-09 13:11                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-09 13:21                       ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-09 13:50                         ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-09 14:24                           ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-09 14:35                             ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-09 14:41                               ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-09 14:05                   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-10-09 15:02       ` Anthony Liguori
2012-10-09 15:06         ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-09 15:37           ` Anthony Liguori
2012-10-09 16:26             ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-09 18:26               ` Anthony Liguori
2012-10-10  7:11                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-10 12:25                   ` Anthony Liguori
2012-10-10 13:31                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-10 14:44                       ` Anthony Liguori
2012-10-11 12:28         ` Kevin Wolf

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