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From: Martin Wilck <martin.wilck@ts.fujitsu.com>
To: grub-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: GRUB and the risk of block list corruption in extX
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 11:54:51 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <512359FB.4050407@ts.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAA91j0Vs2H1ofaLzJRV9EHXQBMKOtukD+Utaed9nqhEyB+PgLw@mail.gmail.com>

Andrey,

> I think this is simply the wrong question for upstream. The primary
> consideration is, what happens inside filesystem is outside of grub
> scope, so grub simply cannot commit itself to saying "it's fine and we
> support it everywhere". Because grub has no control over what happens.

But isn't the question about a real world corruption scenario legitimate
nonetheless? And who else but the GRUB developers would be able to
answer it?

Upstream possibly underestimates the unsettledness that the strong
wording of grub2-install's warning and the constraint to allow block
lists only with "--force" has caused among users and other developers.
The Fedora developers took this warning so seriously that the option of
installing anywhere else but in the MBR has been removed from the installer.

> grub2 does not stop you from doing it. It just wants you to do it
> consciously :)

Good :)

Martin


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  reply	other threads:[~2013-02-19 10:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-02-07 10:47 GRUB and the risk of block list corruption in extX Martin Wilck
2013-02-08 11:44 ` Martin Wilck
2013-02-08 16:57 ` Vladimir 'phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-02-08 17:17   ` Vladimir 'phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-02-08 17:17   ` Martin Wilck
2013-02-08 18:42     ` Lennart Sorensen
2013-02-08 18:56       ` Bruce Dubbs
2013-02-08 18:58         ` Lennart Sorensen
2013-02-08 19:11           ` Andrey Borzenkov
2013-02-18 15:42       ` Martin Wilck
2013-02-09  6:22     ` Chris Murphy
2013-02-18 17:16       ` Martin Wilck
2013-02-18 21:07         ` Chris Murphy
2013-02-19  5:02           ` Andrey Borzenkov
2013-02-19  6:24             ` Chris Murphy
2013-02-19  8:43               ` Michael Chang
2013-02-19  9:06                 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-02-19 18:54                 ` Chris Murphy
2013-02-19  8:47           ` Martin Wilck
2013-02-19 18:56             ` Chris Murphy
2013-02-19 19:46               ` Martin Wilck
2013-02-19  9:37           ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-02-19 12:58             ` Martin Wilck
2013-02-19 15:48               ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2013-02-19 17:17                 ` Martin Wilck
2013-02-19  5:26 ` Andrey Borzenkov
2013-02-19 10:54   ` Martin Wilck [this message]
2013-05-03  5:01 ` Andrey Borzenkov
2013-05-03  8:21   ` Martin Wilck
2013-05-03 19:21     ` Dr. Tilmann Bubeck
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2013-02-10  0:17 Chris Murphy
2013-02-10  4:45 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-02-11 15:38 ` Eric Sandeen
2013-02-07 10:18 Martin Wilck
2013-02-07 13:27 ` Jan Kara
2013-02-07 15:50 ` Eric Sandeen
2013-02-07 20:53 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-02-08 10:15   ` Martin Wilck

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