From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1754929Ab3CAUBk (ORCPT ); Fri, 1 Mar 2013 15:01:40 -0500 Received: from e28smtp08.in.ibm.com ([122.248.162.8]:44926 "EHLO e28smtp08.in.ibm.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1754691Ab3CAUBg (ORCPT ); Fri, 1 Mar 2013 15:01:36 -0500 Message-ID: <51310899.1090308@linux.vnet.ibm.com> Date: Sat, 02 Mar 2013 01:29:21 +0530 From: "Srivatsa S. Bhat" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120828 Thunderbird/15.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tejun Heo CC: Lai Jiangshan , Michel Lespinasse , linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, peterz@infradead.org, fweisbec@gmail.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, namhyung@kernel.org, mingo@kernel.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, linux@arm.linux.org.uk, xiaoguangrong@linux.vnet.ibm.com, wangyun@linux.vnet.ibm.com, paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com, nikunj@linux.vnet.ibm.com, linux-pm@vger.kernel.org, rusty@rustcorp.com.au, rostedt@goodmis.org, rjw@sisk.pl, vincent.guittot@linaro.org, tglx@linutronix.de, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org, oleg@redhat.com, sbw@mit.edu, akpm@linux-foundation.org, linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 04/46] percpu_rwlock: Implement the core design of Per-CPU Reader-Writer Locks References: <512BBAD8.8010006@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <512C7A38.8060906@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <512CC509.1050000@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <512D0D67.9010609@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <512E7879.20109@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <20130301181054.GD2481@mtj.dyndns.org> In-Reply-To: <20130301181054.GD2481@mtj.dyndns.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Scanned: Fidelis XPS MAILER x-cbid: 13030119-2000-0000-0000-00000B23492C Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Hi Tejun, On 03/01/2013 11:40 PM, Tejun Heo wrote: > Hello, Srivatsa. > > On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 02:49:53AM +0530, Srivatsa S. Bhat wrote: >> Don't get me wrong - I'll whole-heartedly acknowledge and appreciate if >> _your_ code is better than mine. I just don't like the idea of somebody >> plagiarizing my ideas/code (or even others' ideas for that matter). >> However, I sincerely apologize in advance if I misunderstood/misjudged your >> intentions; I just wanted to voice my concerns out loud at this point, >> considering the bad feeling I got by looking at your responses collectively. > > Although I don't know Lai personally, from my experience working with > him past several months on workqueue, I strongly doubt he has dark > urterior intenions. The biggest problem probably is that his > communication in English isn't very fluent yet and thus doesn't carry > the underlying intentions or tones very well and he tends to bombard > patches in quick succession without much explanation inbetween (during > 3.8 cycle, I was receiving several workqueue patchsets days apart > trying to solve the same problem with completely different approaches > way before the discussion on the previous postings reach any kind of > consensus). A lot of that also probably comes from communication > problems. > > Anyways, I really don't think he's trying to take claim of your work. > At least for now, you kinda need to speculate what he's trying to do > and then confirm that back to him, but once you get used to that part, > he's pretty nice to work with and I'm sure his communication will > improve in time (I think it has gotten a lot better than only some > months ago). > Thank you so much for helping clear the air, Tejun! I'm truly sorry again for having drawn the wrong conclusions based on gaps in our communication. It was a mistake on my part and I would like to request Lai to kindly forgive me. I'm looking forward to working with Lai effectively, going forward. Thank you! Regards, Srivatsa S. Bhat From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from e28smtp09.in.ibm.com (e28smtp09.in.ibm.com [122.248.162.9]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "e28smtp09.in.ibm.com", Issuer "GeoTrust SSL CA" (not verified)) by ozlabs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2EABB2C0309 for ; Sat, 2 Mar 2013 07:01:35 +1100 (EST) Received: from /spool/local by e28smtp09.in.ibm.com with IBM ESMTP SMTP Gateway: Authorized Use Only! Violators will be prosecuted for from ; Sat, 2 Mar 2013 01:29:29 +0530 Received: from d28relay03.in.ibm.com (d28relay03.in.ibm.com [9.184.220.60]) by d28dlp01.in.ibm.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8F83E0050 for ; Sat, 2 Mar 2013 01:32:37 +0530 (IST) Received: from d28av05.in.ibm.com (d28av05.in.ibm.com [9.184.220.67]) by d28relay03.in.ibm.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/NCO v10.0) with ESMTP id r21K1OKZ35455158 for ; Sat, 2 Mar 2013 01:31:25 +0530 Received: from d28av05.in.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d28av05.in.ibm.com (8.14.4/8.13.1/NCO v10.0 AVout) with ESMTP id r21K1RUw026973 for ; Sat, 2 Mar 2013 07:01:29 +1100 Message-ID: <51310899.1090308@linux.vnet.ibm.com> Date: Sat, 02 Mar 2013 01:29:21 +0530 From: "Srivatsa S. Bhat" MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tejun Heo Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 04/46] percpu_rwlock: Implement the core design of Per-CPU Reader-Writer Locks References: <512BBAD8.8010006@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <512C7A38.8060906@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <512CC509.1050000@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <512D0D67.9010609@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <512E7879.20109@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <20130301181054.GD2481@mtj.dyndns.org> In-Reply-To: <20130301181054.GD2481@mtj.dyndns.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Lai Jiangshan , linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, peterz@infradead.org, fweisbec@gmail.com, oleg@redhat.com, Michel Lespinasse , mingo@kernel.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, linux@arm.linux.org.uk, xiaoguangrong@linux.vnet.ibm.com, wangyun@linux.vnet.ibm.com, paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com, nikunj@linux.vnet.ibm.com, linux-pm@vger.kernel.org, rusty@rustcorp.com.au, rostedt@goodmis.org, rjw@sisk.pl, namhyung@kernel.org, tglx@linutronix.de, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, vincent.guittot@linaro.org, sbw@mit.edu, akpm@linux-foundation.org, linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org List-Id: Linux on PowerPC Developers Mail List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Hi Tejun, On 03/01/2013 11:40 PM, Tejun Heo wrote: > Hello, Srivatsa. > > On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 02:49:53AM +0530, Srivatsa S. Bhat wrote: >> Don't get me wrong - I'll whole-heartedly acknowledge and appreciate if >> _your_ code is better than mine. I just don't like the idea of somebody >> plagiarizing my ideas/code (or even others' ideas for that matter). >> However, I sincerely apologize in advance if I misunderstood/misjudged your >> intentions; I just wanted to voice my concerns out loud at this point, >> considering the bad feeling I got by looking at your responses collectively. > > Although I don't know Lai personally, from my experience working with > him past several months on workqueue, I strongly doubt he has dark > urterior intenions. The biggest problem probably is that his > communication in English isn't very fluent yet and thus doesn't carry > the underlying intentions or tones very well and he tends to bombard > patches in quick succession without much explanation inbetween (during > 3.8 cycle, I was receiving several workqueue patchsets days apart > trying to solve the same problem with completely different approaches > way before the discussion on the previous postings reach any kind of > consensus). A lot of that also probably comes from communication > problems. > > Anyways, I really don't think he's trying to take claim of your work. > At least for now, you kinda need to speculate what he's trying to do > and then confirm that back to him, but once you get used to that part, > he's pretty nice to work with and I'm sure his communication will > improve in time (I think it has gotten a lot better than only some > months ago). > Thank you so much for helping clear the air, Tejun! I'm truly sorry again for having drawn the wrong conclusions based on gaps in our communication. It was a mistake on my part and I would like to request Lai to kindly forgive me. I'm looking forward to working with Lai effectively, going forward. Thank you! Regards, Srivatsa S. Bhat From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: srivatsa.bhat@linux.vnet.ibm.com (Srivatsa S. Bhat) Date: Sat, 02 Mar 2013 01:29:21 +0530 Subject: [PATCH v6 04/46] percpu_rwlock: Implement the core design of Per-CPU Reader-Writer Locks In-Reply-To: <20130301181054.GD2481@mtj.dyndns.org> References: <512BBAD8.8010006@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <512C7A38.8060906@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <512CC509.1050000@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <512D0D67.9010609@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <512E7879.20109@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <20130301181054.GD2481@mtj.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <51310899.1090308@linux.vnet.ibm.com> To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org List-Id: linux-arm-kernel.lists.infradead.org Hi Tejun, On 03/01/2013 11:40 PM, Tejun Heo wrote: > Hello, Srivatsa. > > On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 02:49:53AM +0530, Srivatsa S. Bhat wrote: >> Don't get me wrong - I'll whole-heartedly acknowledge and appreciate if >> _your_ code is better than mine. I just don't like the idea of somebody >> plagiarizing my ideas/code (or even others' ideas for that matter). >> However, I sincerely apologize in advance if I misunderstood/misjudged your >> intentions; I just wanted to voice my concerns out loud at this point, >> considering the bad feeling I got by looking at your responses collectively. > > Although I don't know Lai personally, from my experience working with > him past several months on workqueue, I strongly doubt he has dark > urterior intenions. The biggest problem probably is that his > communication in English isn't very fluent yet and thus doesn't carry > the underlying intentions or tones very well and he tends to bombard > patches in quick succession without much explanation inbetween (during > 3.8 cycle, I was receiving several workqueue patchsets days apart > trying to solve the same problem with completely different approaches > way before the discussion on the previous postings reach any kind of > consensus). A lot of that also probably comes from communication > problems. > > Anyways, I really don't think he's trying to take claim of your work. > At least for now, you kinda need to speculate what he's trying to do > and then confirm that back to him, but once you get used to that part, > he's pretty nice to work with and I'm sure his communication will > improve in time (I think it has gotten a lot better than only some > months ago). > Thank you so much for helping clear the air, Tejun! I'm truly sorry again for having drawn the wrong conclusions based on gaps in our communication. It was a mistake on my part and I would like to request Lai to kindly forgive me. I'm looking forward to working with Lai effectively, going forward. Thank you! Regards, Srivatsa S. Bhat