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From: Martin Mokrejs <mmokrejs@fold.natur.cuni.cz>
To: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
	Martin Mokrejs <mmokrejs@fold.natur.cuni.cz>
Cc: Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>,
	"linux-pci@vger.kernel.org" <linux-pci@vger.kernel.org>,
	Yinghai Lu <yinghai@kernel.org>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>,
	Sarah Sharp <sarah.a.sharp@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: Dell Vostro 3550: pci_hotplug+acpiphp require 'pcie_aspm=force' on kernel command-line for hotplug to work
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 16:56:24 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <513DFEA8.2080203@fold.natur.cuni.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1303111101090.2246-100000@iolanthe.rowland.org>

Alan Stern wrote:
> On Mon, 11 Mar 2013, Martin Mokrejs wrote:
> 
>>> I thought the only card with a problem was the USB3.0 card.  But here
>>> you suggest that there *is* a problem with the SATA and Firewire
>>> cards.  Can you describe that problem in one sentence?
>>
>> One sentence? No. ;-)
>>
>> None of the cards works when 'nousb' and while are disabled USB
>> devices in BIOS (which can be altered at all, don't know whether that really
>> disables all USB in BIOS or not, hence I used the 'nousb' to be sure).
> 
> Martin:
> 
> I don't know about Bjorn, but I find it very difficult to work on more 
> than one bug at a time.  Since your low-level PCI hotplug problems 
> seem to be more fundamental than the USB problems, I'll wait until the 
> PCI part is under control before trying to contribute.

Alan, for me it is even more difficult because I really do not know what
are the hardware details about nor what is an OS kernel. I really wanted
you pickup anything you see broken in the collected data and we work on
those bug separately. But I am not able to judge what if broken and what
is not.

But I believe you could always say: Hey, if the eSATA or Firewire is
USB-based (unlike PCIe based) it would have to use usb-storage and blah.
I think you can try to come up with answer why USB-related changes disable
PCI Express Root port or whether that was the 'nousb' outcome. I doubt
PCI people will dive into that area. ;)

But thank you for your time on this.
Martin

  reply	other threads:[~2013-03-11 15:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-01-09 23:10 Dell Vostro 3550: pci_hotplug+acpiphp require 'pcie_aspm=force' on kernel command-line for hotplug to work Martin Mokrejs
2013-01-10  0:40 ` Yinghai Lu
2013-01-10  2:04   ` Martin Mokrejs
2013-01-11 21:11     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-03-06 10:32       ` Martin Mokrejs
2013-03-06  4:09 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2013-03-06 10:30   ` Martin Mokrejs
2013-03-06 21:32     ` Bjorn Helgaas
2013-03-08  1:47       ` Martin Mokrejs
2013-03-09  3:51         ` Bjorn Helgaas
2013-03-11  1:01           ` Martin Mokrejs
2013-03-11 15:03             ` Alan Stern
2013-03-11 15:56               ` Martin Mokrejs [this message]
2013-03-11 16:14                 ` Alan Stern
2013-03-12 16:35           ` Martin Mokrejs

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