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From: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>
To: Jerome Poncin <JPoncin@hilscher.com>
Cc: "xenomai@xenomai.org" <xenomai@xenomai.org>
Subject: Re: [Xenomai] Hilscher driver for cifX boards
Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 14:24:32 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <51432110.3090900@siemens.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <51431C55.8050304@hilscher.com>

On 2013-03-15 14:04, Jerome Poncin wrote:
> Hello Jan,
> 
> Yes you're right. I have 1 thread for test (main) application and the
> driver create one or two thread if IRQ or polling is enable.
> The driver thread are loop waiting event with delay.
> At Driver start it take few second to download firmware and configuration.
> My question is why it's a problem to have a real time that that run few
> second.
> If this task have the bigger priority, it's normal to not release hand
> and to not sleep, I'm right or not ?

Linux is not capable (yet) of handling the case that an online CPU is
100% occupied. Sooner or later, the whole (Linux) system will lock up,
also the timekeeping can be negatively affected. That's nothing Xenomai
can change.

Therefore, every real-time task has to behave properly, sleep on
asynchronous external events or suspend itself for a certain while when
there is nothing to do. In good real-time designs, that is usually no
problem, specifically if the number of tasks is moderate and the
workload is clear. I've seen less obvious problems in large
applications, but those were typically bugs as well.

Jan

-- 
Siemens AG, Corporate Technology, CT RTC ITP SDP-DE
Corporate Competence Center Embedded Linux


  reply	other threads:[~2013-03-15 13:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-02-26  9:29 [Xenomai] Hilscher driver for cifX boards Jerome Poncin
2013-02-26 11:37 ` Jan Kiszka
2013-02-26 14:25   ` Jerome Poncin
2013-02-26 14:28     ` Jan Kiszka
2013-02-28  8:15       ` Jerome Poncin
2013-02-28 11:31         ` Jan Kiszka
2013-02-28 12:08           ` Jerome Poncin
2013-03-01 13:56             ` Jerome Poncin
2013-03-01 17:02               ` Jan Kiszka
2013-03-01 20:06               ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2013-03-04  9:13               ` Jerome Poncin
2013-03-04 21:08                 ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2013-03-05 10:45                   ` Jerome Poncin
2013-03-05 11:26                     ` Jan Kiszka
2013-03-05 12:21                       ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2013-03-05 12:30                       ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2013-03-05 15:42                       ` Jerome Poncin
2013-03-05 19:41                         ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2013-03-06  8:10                           ` Jerome Poncin
2013-03-06  8:19                             ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2013-03-06  8:55                               ` Jerome Poncin
2013-03-06 10:33                               ` Jerome Poncin
2013-03-06 12:04                                 ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2013-03-06 13:58                                   ` Jerome Poncin
2013-03-06 15:28                                     ` Jan Kiszka
2013-03-06 21:05                                       ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2013-03-07 15:33                                         ` Jerome Poncin
2013-03-08 10:17                                           ` Jerome Poncin
2013-03-08 12:22                                             ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2013-03-12  9:10                                               ` Jerome Poncin
2013-03-12 12:21                                                 ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2013-03-12 15:27                                                   ` Jerome Poncin
2013-03-12 19:38                                                     ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2013-03-13 11:08                                                       ` Jerome Poncin
2013-03-15  9:09                                                         ` Jerome Poncin
2013-03-15 11:07                                                           ` Jan Kiszka
2013-03-15 13:04                                                             ` Jerome Poncin
2013-03-15 13:24                                                               ` Jan Kiszka [this message]
2013-03-18 10:02                                                                 ` Jerome Poncin
2013-03-19 13:42                                                                   ` Jerome Poncin
2013-03-06 20:42                                     ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2013-02-12 11:37 Stéphane LOS
2013-02-12 11:51 ` Jan Kiszka
2013-02-13 14:09   ` Stéphane LOS
2013-02-14 13:36     ` Stéphane LOS
2013-02-14 15:01       ` Stéphane LOS
2013-02-15 14:54         ` Jan Kiszka
2013-02-18 11:43           ` Stéphane LOS
2013-02-07 14:53 Stéphane LOS
2013-02-07 16:11 ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2013-02-08  9:07   ` Stéphane LOS
2013-02-08  9:18     ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2013-02-08 11:28       ` Jan Kiszka
2013-02-08 11:35         ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2013-02-08 11:46           ` Jan Kiszka
     [not found]         ` <5114FD7B.20902@hilscher.com>
2013-02-08 13:40           ` Jan Kiszka
2013-02-08 14:33             ` Stéphane LOS

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