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From: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
To: Michel Lespinasse <walken@google.com>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] Re: Repeated fork() causes SLAB to grow without bound
Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2013 06:37:25 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <51ADC365.4010307@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130603195003.GA31275@evergreen.ssec.wisc.edu>

On 06/03/2013 03:50 PM, Daniel Forrest wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 11:29:54PM -0400, Rik van Riel wrote:
>> On 08/21/2012 11:20 PM, Michel Lespinasse wrote:
>>> On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 02:39:26AM -0700, Michel Lespinasse wrote:
>>>> Instead of adding an atomic count for page references, we could limit
>>>> the anon_vma stacking depth. In fork, we would only clone anon_vmas
>>>> that have a low enough generation count. I think that's not great
>>>> (adds a special case for the deep-fork-without-exec behavior), but
>>>> still better than the atomic page reference counter.
>>>
>>> Here is an attached patch to demonstrate the idea.
>>>
>>> anon_vma_clone() is modified to return the length of the existing same_vma
>>> anon vma chain, and we create a new anon_vma in the child only on the first
>>> fork (this could be tweaked to allow up to a set number of forks, but
>>> I think the first fork would cover all the common forking server cases).
>>
>> I suspect we need 2 or 3.
>>
>> Some forking servers first fork off one child, and have
>> the original parent exit, in order to "background the server".
>> That first child then becomes the parent to the real child
>> processes that do the work.
>>
>> It is conceivable that we might need an extra level for
>> processes that do something special with privilege dropping,
>> namespace changing, etc...
>>
>> Even setting the threshold to 5 should be totally harmless,
>> since the problem does not kick in until we have really
>> long chains, like in Dan's bug report.
>
> I have been running with Michel's patch (with the threshold set to 5)
> for quite a few months now and can confirm that it does indeed solve
> my problem.  I am not a kernel developer, so I would appreciate if one
> of you could push this into the kernel tree.
>
> NOTE: I have attached Michel's patch with "(length > 1)" modified to
> "(length > 5)" and added a "Tested-by:".

Thank you for testing this.

I believe this code should go into the Linux kernel,
since it closes up what could be a denial of service
attack (albeit a local one) with the anonvma code.

> On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 02:39:26AM -0700, Michel Lespinasse wrote:
>> Instead of adding an atomic count for page references, we could limit
>> the anon_vma stacking depth. In fork, we would only clone anon_vmas
>> that have a low enough generation count. I think that's not great
>> (adds a special case for the deep-fork-without-exec behavior), but
>> still better than the atomic page reference counter.
>
> Here is an attached patch to demonstrate the idea.
>
> anon_vma_clone() is modified to return the length of the existing same_vma
> anon vma chain, and we create a new anon_vma in the child only on the first
> fork (this could be tweaked to allow up to a set number of forks, but
> I think the first fork would cover all the common forking server cases).
>
> Signed-off-by: Michel Lespinasse <walken@google.com>
> Tested-by: Daniel Forrest <dan.forrest@ssec.wisc.edu>

Reviewed-by: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>


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From: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
To: Michel Lespinasse <walken@google.com>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] Re: Repeated fork() causes SLAB to grow without bound
Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2013 06:37:25 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <51ADC365.4010307@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130603195003.GA31275@evergreen.ssec.wisc.edu>

On 06/03/2013 03:50 PM, Daniel Forrest wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 11:29:54PM -0400, Rik van Riel wrote:
>> On 08/21/2012 11:20 PM, Michel Lespinasse wrote:
>>> On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 02:39:26AM -0700, Michel Lespinasse wrote:
>>>> Instead of adding an atomic count for page references, we could limit
>>>> the anon_vma stacking depth. In fork, we would only clone anon_vmas
>>>> that have a low enough generation count. I think that's not great
>>>> (adds a special case for the deep-fork-without-exec behavior), but
>>>> still better than the atomic page reference counter.
>>>
>>> Here is an attached patch to demonstrate the idea.
>>>
>>> anon_vma_clone() is modified to return the length of the existing same_vma
>>> anon vma chain, and we create a new anon_vma in the child only on the first
>>> fork (this could be tweaked to allow up to a set number of forks, but
>>> I think the first fork would cover all the common forking server cases).
>>
>> I suspect we need 2 or 3.
>>
>> Some forking servers first fork off one child, and have
>> the original parent exit, in order to "background the server".
>> That first child then becomes the parent to the real child
>> processes that do the work.
>>
>> It is conceivable that we might need an extra level for
>> processes that do something special with privilege dropping,
>> namespace changing, etc...
>>
>> Even setting the threshold to 5 should be totally harmless,
>> since the problem does not kick in until we have really
>> long chains, like in Dan's bug report.
>
> I have been running with Michel's patch (with the threshold set to 5)
> for quite a few months now and can confirm that it does indeed solve
> my problem.  I am not a kernel developer, so I would appreciate if one
> of you could push this into the kernel tree.
>
> NOTE: I have attached Michel's patch with "(length > 1)" modified to
> "(length > 5)" and added a "Tested-by:".

Thank you for testing this.

I believe this code should go into the Linux kernel,
since it closes up what could be a denial of service
attack (albeit a local one) with the anonvma code.

> On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 02:39:26AM -0700, Michel Lespinasse wrote:
>> Instead of adding an atomic count for page references, we could limit
>> the anon_vma stacking depth. In fork, we would only clone anon_vmas
>> that have a low enough generation count. I think that's not great
>> (adds a special case for the deep-fork-without-exec behavior), but
>> still better than the atomic page reference counter.
>
> Here is an attached patch to demonstrate the idea.
>
> anon_vma_clone() is modified to return the length of the existing same_vma
> anon vma chain, and we create a new anon_vma in the child only on the first
> fork (this could be tweaked to allow up to a set number of forks, but
> I think the first fork would cover all the common forking server cases).
>
> Signed-off-by: Michel Lespinasse <walken@google.com>
> Tested-by: Daniel Forrest <dan.forrest@ssec.wisc.edu>

Reviewed-by: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>


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  reply	other threads:[~2013-06-04 10:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-08-16  2:46 Repeated fork() causes SLAB to grow without bound Daniel Forrest
2012-08-16 18:58 ` Rik van Riel
2012-08-16 18:58   ` Rik van Riel
2012-08-18  0:03   ` Daniel Forrest
2012-08-18  0:03     ` Daniel Forrest
2012-08-18  3:46     ` Rik van Riel
2012-08-18  3:46       ` Rik van Riel
2012-08-18  4:07       ` Daniel Forrest
2012-08-18  4:07         ` Daniel Forrest
2012-08-18  4:10         ` Rik van Riel
2012-08-18  4:10           ` Rik van Riel
2012-08-20  8:00       ` Hugh Dickins
2012-08-20  8:00         ` Hugh Dickins
2012-08-20  9:39         ` Michel Lespinasse
2012-08-20  9:39           ` Michel Lespinasse
2012-08-20 11:11           ` Andi Kleen
2012-08-20 11:11             ` Andi Kleen
2012-08-20 11:17           ` Rik van Riel
2012-08-20 11:17             ` Rik van Riel
2012-08-20 11:53             ` Michel Lespinasse
2012-08-20 11:53               ` Michel Lespinasse
2012-08-20 19:11               ` Michel Lespinasse
2012-08-20 19:11                 ` Michel Lespinasse
2012-08-22  3:20           ` [RFC PATCH] " Michel Lespinasse
2012-08-22  3:20             ` Michel Lespinasse
2012-08-22  3:29             ` Rik van Riel
2012-08-22  3:29               ` Rik van Riel
2013-06-03 19:50               ` Daniel Forrest
2013-06-03 19:50                 ` Daniel Forrest
2013-06-04 10:37                 ` Rik van Riel [this message]
2013-06-04 10:37                   ` Rik van Riel
2013-06-05 14:02                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2013-06-05 14:02                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2014-11-14 16:30                 ` [PATCH] " Daniel Forrest
2014-11-14 16:30                   ` Daniel Forrest
2014-11-18  0:02                   ` Andrew Morton
2014-11-18  0:02                     ` Andrew Morton
2014-11-18  1:41                     ` Daniel Forrest
2014-11-18  1:41                       ` Daniel Forrest
2014-11-18  2:41                       ` Rik van Riel
2014-11-18  2:41                         ` Rik van Riel
2014-11-18 20:19                         ` Andrew Morton
2014-11-18 20:19                           ` Andrew Morton
2014-11-18 22:15                           ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2014-11-18 22:15                             ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2014-11-18 23:02                             ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2014-11-18 23:50                               ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-11-18 23:50                                 ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-11-19 14:36                                 ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2014-11-19 14:36                                   ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2014-11-19 16:09                                   ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-11-19 16:09                                     ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-11-19 16:58                                     ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2014-11-19 16:58                                       ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2014-11-19 23:14                                       ` Michel Lespinasse
2014-11-19 23:14                                         ` Michel Lespinasse
2014-11-20 14:42                                         ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2014-11-20 14:42                                           ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2014-11-20 14:50                                           ` Rik van Riel
2014-11-20 14:50                                             ` Rik van Riel
2014-11-20 15:03                                             ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2014-11-20 15:03                                               ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2014-11-24  7:09                                               ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2014-11-25 10:59                                                 ` Michal Hocko
2014-11-25 10:59                                                   ` Michal Hocko
2014-11-25 12:13                                                   ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2014-11-25 15:00                                                     ` Michal Hocko
2014-11-25 15:00                                                       ` Michal Hocko
2014-11-26 17:35                                                       ` Michal Hocko
2014-11-26 17:35                                                         ` Michal Hocko
2014-12-05 15:44                                                         ` Jerome Marchand
2014-11-20 15:27                                           ` Michel Lespinasse
2014-11-20 15:27                                             ` Michel Lespinasse
2014-11-19  2:48                           ` Rik van Riel
2014-11-19  2:48                             ` Rik van Riel

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