From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: LC Bruzenak Subject: Re: [PATCH 7/7] audit: audit feature to set loginuid immutable Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2013 18:51:43 -0500 Message-ID: <51DCA20F.6020309@magitekltd.com> References: <1369411910-13777-1-git-send-email-eparis@redhat.com> <7631599.bE25jHDhjZ@x2> <1373319151.2395.30.camel@dhcp137-13.rdu.redhat.com> <1453848.WlUzMfBVNC@x2> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: Received: from mx1.redhat.com (ext-mx11.extmail.prod.ext.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.110.16]) by int-mx01.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r69Npkoh006734 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2013 19:51:46 -0400 Received: from mail-ob0-f176.google.com (mail-ob0-f176.google.com [209.85.214.176]) by mx1.redhat.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r69Npi6C026335 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2013 19:51:45 -0400 Received: by mail-ob0-f176.google.com with SMTP id v19so7735274obq.35 for ; Tue, 09 Jul 2013 16:51:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.31.11] (108-252-2-157.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net. [108.252.2.157]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id qa4sm41573523oeb.5.2013.07.09.16.51.43 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 09 Jul 2013 16:51:43 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1453848.WlUzMfBVNC@x2> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: linux-audit-bounces@redhat.com Errors-To: linux-audit-bounces@redhat.com To: linux-audit@redhat.com List-Id: linux-audit@redhat.com On 07/09/2013 05:24 PM, Steve Grubb wrote ... I don't think anyone has plans to write those tools at the moment. That would be ideal. But even in the case where audit rules don't get loaded, there are audit events generated by the MAC systems and some hard coded kernel events and user space events. It would be nice to know they are not tampered with. ... Question - from the title I had thought this was a good thing. But wasn't loginuid (and subsequently auid) already immutable? Sorry; just not certain what this change does for the average guy... Thx, LCB -- LC (Lenny) Bruzenak lenny@magitekltd.com