From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S965117Ab3GLRLa (ORCPT ); Fri, 12 Jul 2013 13:11:30 -0400 Received: from terminus.zytor.com ([198.137.202.10]:36713 "EHLO mail.zytor.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S932884Ab3GLRL2 (ORCPT ); Fri, 12 Jul 2013 13:11:28 -0400 Message-ID: <51E038AC.6060107@zytor.com> Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2013 10:11:08 -0700 From: "H. Peter Anvin" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130625 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Theodore Ts'o" , Greg Kroah-Hartman , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, torvalds@linux-foundation.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org, stable@vger.kernel.org, ksummit-2013-discuss@lists.linux-foundation.org Subject: Re: [Ksummit-2013-discuss] When to push bug fixes to mainline References: <20130711214830.611455274@linuxfoundation.org> <20130712005023.GB31005@thunk.org> In-Reply-To: <20130712005023.GB31005@thunk.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On 07/11/2013 05:50 PM, Theodore Ts'o wrote: > > At least at one point in the past... > And at at least one *other* point in the past, Linus stated that "holding back anything with a Cc: stable waiting for the merge window is wrong". This would imply that the post-rc5-or-so policy and the stable policy are effectively the same. Now, "policy" is a big word, and Linus and the maintainers generally have exercised discretion here and I would think that a lot of it really depends on the trust relationship between Linus and maintainer, or between maintainer and submaintainer. I generally try to flag to Linus when I push something that he may consider questionable, and I very rarely get > Maybe the pendulum has swung too far in the direction of holding back > changes and trying to avoid the risk of introducing regressions; > perhaps this would be a good topic to discuss at the Kernel Summit. I think it would, to the extent such a policy is needed and workable. I think there is a serious risk in getting to hung up on policy. -hpa