From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1757365Ab3GVKjD (ORCPT ); Mon, 22 Jul 2013 06:39:03 -0400 Received: from b.ns.miles-group.at ([95.130.255.144]:1660 "EHLO radon.swed.at" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1757174Ab3GVKjB (ORCPT ); Mon, 22 Jul 2013 06:39:01 -0400 Message-ID: <51ED0BBF.7060502@nod.at> Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2013 12:38:55 +0200 From: Richard Weinberger User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ramkumar Ramachandra CC: Al Viro , LKML , lpoetter@redhat.com Subject: Re: [PATCH] um: change defconfig to stop spawning xterm References: <1374258017-19606-1-git-send-email-artagnon@gmail.com> <51E988FF.9010201@nod.at> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org CC'ing Lennart. Am 22.07.2013 11:45, schrieb Ramkumar Ramachandra: > Ramkumar Ramachandra wrote: >> [1]: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2013-July/012152.html > > ... and the patches were rejected. Lennart says that UML providing > /dev/tty* is wrong, and that UML should call them /dev/hvc* (or > something). Can we do something about the situation? Can we remove > /dev/tty*, and provide /dev/hvc*? Will we be breaking existing users? > > Thanks. > > Lennart Poettering wrote: >> UML shouldn't be penalized for not implementing some terminal emulation, >> but it should be penalized for doing so under the label of "VT support", >> which it simply is not providing. >> >> They can call their ttys any way they want. If the call them >> /dev/tty[1..64] however, then they need to implement the VC >> interfaces. All of them. Lennart, can you please explain us why /dev/tty[1..64] is forced to have virtual console support? Thanks, //richard