From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753611Ab3GWB12 (ORCPT ); Mon, 22 Jul 2013 21:27:28 -0400 Received: from szxga02-in.huawei.com ([119.145.14.65]:10211 "EHLO szxga02-in.huawei.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751088Ab3GWB10 (ORCPT ); Mon, 22 Jul 2013 21:27:26 -0400 Message-ID: <51EDDBD2.7090605@huawei.com> Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2013 09:26:42 +0800 From: Li Zefan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ric Wheeler CC: Ben Hutchings , , Stefano Stabellini , Greg Kroah-Hartman , Darren Hart , Felipe Contreras , Linux Kernel Mailing List , stable , Ingo Molnar , Chris Ball , Linus Torvalds , Willy Tarreau Subject: Re: [Ksummit-2013-discuss] [ATTEND] How to act on LKML References: <1373944014.17876.255.camel@gandalf.local.home> <51E4BFA9.1030600@zytor.com> <1373991399.6458.6.camel@gandalf.local.home> <51E59F79.1040903@zytor.com> <20130717144043.GA16513@xanatos> <20130719120841.GH26716@gmail.com> <1374339860.16533.6.camel@deadeye.wl.decadent.org.uk> <51EBE097.1060204@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <51EBE097.1060204@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: [10.135.68.215] X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On 2013/7/21 21:22, Ric Wheeler wrote: > On 07/20/2013 01:04 PM, Ben Hutchings wrote: >> n Fri, 2013-07-19 at 13:42 -0500, Felipe Contreras wrote: >>> >On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 7:08 AM, Ingo Molnar wrote: >>>> > > >>>> > >* Felipe Contreras wrote: >>> > >>>>> > >>As Linus already pointed out, not everybody has to work with everybody. >>>> > > >>>> > >That's not the point though, the point is to potentially roughly double >>>> > >the creative brain capacity of the Linux kernel project. >>> > >>> >Unfortunately that's impossible; we all know there aren't as many >>> >women programmers as there are men. >> In some countries, though not all. >> >> But we also know (or should realise) that the gender ratio among >> programmers in general is much less unbalanced than in some free >> software communities including the Linux kernel developers. >> > > Just a couple of data points to add. > > When I was in graduate school in Israel, we had more women doing their phd then men. Not a huge sample, but it was interesting. > > The counter sample is the number of coding women we have at Red Hat in the kernel team. We are around zero per cent. Certainly a sign that we need to do better, regardless of the broader community challenges... > IT companies in China, they try to make sure there's at least one (most the time the result is just one) female developer/tester in a team, and a team is ~10 people. Even if it's a kernel team, but it's harder to meet. Don't know if the same strategy is applied in other countries.