From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1754393Ab3GWCEv (ORCPT ); Mon, 22 Jul 2013 22:04:51 -0400 Received: from szxga02-in.huawei.com ([119.145.14.65]:22541 "EHLO szxga02-in.huawei.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1750872Ab3GWCEu (ORCPT ); Mon, 22 Jul 2013 22:04:50 -0400 Message-ID: <51EDE49B.7080601@huawei.com> Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2013 10:04:11 +0800 From: Li Zefan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Steven Rostedt CC: Ric Wheeler , , Stefano Stabellini , Greg Kroah-Hartman , Darren Hart , Felipe Contreras , Linux Kernel Mailing List , stable , Willy Tarreau , Linus Torvalds , Chris Ball , Ingo Molnar Subject: Re: [Ksummit-2013-discuss] [ATTEND] How to act on LKML References: <1373944014.17876.255.camel@gandalf.local.home> <51E4BFA9.1030600@zytor.com> <1373991399.6458.6.camel@gandalf.local.home> <51E59F79.1040903@zytor.com> <20130717144043.GA16513@xanatos> <20130719120841.GH26716@gmail.com> <1374339860.16533.6.camel@deadeye.wl.decadent.org.uk> <51EBE097.1060204@gmail.com> <51EDDBD2.7090605@huawei.com> <1374543566.3356.121.camel@gandalf.local.home> In-Reply-To: <1374543566.3356.121.camel@gandalf.local.home> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: [10.135.68.215] X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On 2013/7/23 9:39, Steven Rostedt wrote: > On Tue, 2013-07-23 at 09:26 +0800, Li Zefan wrote: > >> IT companies in China, they try to make sure there's at least one (most the >> time the result is just one) female developer/tester in a team, and a team >> is ~10 people. Even if it's a kernel team, but it's harder to meet. >> >> Don't know if the same strategy is applied in other countries. > > Just my observation, but it seems that I see more women in tech from the > Asian countries than from the US. > > Watching my two teenage daughters grow up here as well as their friends, > the focus of our schools still seem more bent on being good in sports > than in academics, and even worse for science. Sports for girls happen > to be much more serious than when I was in school. Being a "nerd" for a > boy is starting to get a bit more acceptance (see Big Bang Theory), but > for girls they seem a bit more harsh. At least from what I can tell by > watching how things are with my kids and their friends. One of the > friends of my daughter, who does very well in school, hides her grades > and "pretends" to be stupid. This is really a sad state of affairs if > you ask me :-( > In china we are in the opposite. In college girls like to stay in school library to study, and in general they get better scores than boys, and they don't like sports. But being good in study is not the same as being good at programming, and in fact they are not keen in coding! And I think IT companies in China tend to lower their requirements when the job interviewee is a female.