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From: Stephen Warren <swarren@wwwdotorg.org>
To: leroy christophe <christophe.leroy@c-s.fr>
Cc: devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
	Ian Campbell <ian.campbell@citrix.com>,
	Mark Brown <broonie@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com>,
	Pawel Moll <pawel.moll@arm.com>,
	Mark Rutland <Mark.Rutland@arm.com>,
	Rob Herring <rob.herring@calxeda.com>,
	linux-spi@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Fwd: [PATCH] SPI: Set SPI bits per words in an OF DeviceTree SPI node
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 10:19:29 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <520BAE11.5040504@wwwdotorg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <520B845A.4070602@c-s.fr>

On 08/14/2013 07:21 AM, leroy christophe wrote:
> 
>>> In the node, you then have to include the 'spi-bits' property.
>>>
>>> Exemple:
>>>      fpga-loader@7 {
>>>          compatible = "cs,fpga-loader";
>>>          spi-max-frequency = <10000000>;
>>>          reg = <7>;
>>>          spi-cs-high;
>>>          spi-bits = <16>;
>>>      };
>> Shouldn't the driver for cs,fpga-loader be defining how many bit the SPI
>> transactions should use? If the binding covers HW that can operate at
>> various bits-per-word, it's reasonable for those individual bindings to
>> define a property that sets that width, but I'm not convinced it's
>> reasonable for the SPI core to allow any DT node to specify that, and
>> presumably override the SPI device's driver's selection.
>
> This is a tricky question.
> 
> The issue in the CPM (communication co-processor) on the MPC 8xx CPU is
> that, when you use the 16 bits mode, the CPM swaps the bytes, so the
> driver must unswap them to use them properly.
> It looks like their is the same issue with other CPUs, like the MPCs
> having the Quick Engine. In the QE driver, it is done simple: the
> transfert is forced at 8bits at all time regardless on what the driver
> requests. This is known to work well, but I don't want to do that for
> the CPM driver, because the 16 bits mode is a lot less CPU consuming
> than the 8 bits mode, and my own drivers for my custom components do
> work in 16 bits mode (byte swap is included in those drivers).

If there's a byte-swap bug in the CPM HW/driver, it should be solved in
the CPM driver, not in the drivers that happen to communicate over the
CPM driver. As you say below, fixing it in the client drivers is the
wrong thing to do, since then they won't work with other SPI controllers.

Either way, this doesn't seem like something that should be represented
in DT at all; it should be down to the CPM driver to indicate to the SPI
sub-system that it doesn't support 16-bit transfers.

An in general, your answer in no way addresses why this property should
apply to all SPI devices.

> That's the reason why I was proposing a way, through the Device Tree, to
> select the speed instead of forcing it inside the driver.
> Because the MAX7301 driver for instance, which used to force 16 bits
> mode, does work perfectly well on the MPC8xx in 8 bits mode, but doesn't
> work in 16 bits because it doesn't unswap the bytes.
> If I modify that driver to swap the bytes, it will not work anymore on
> platforms that don't require bytes to be swapped.
> 
> So, really, I don't know what to do here. Do you have any suggestion ?

Drop 16-bit support from the CPM driver if it doesn't work.

  reply	other threads:[~2013-08-14 16:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-08-07 15:44 [PATCH] SPI: Set SPI bits per words in an OF DeviceTree SPI node Christophe Leroy
2013-08-07 15:44 ` Christophe Leroy
2013-08-07 15:54 ` Fwd: " leroy christophe
2013-08-07 16:27   ` Kumar Gala
2013-08-07 16:30   ` Fwd: " Stephen Warren
2013-08-14 13:21     ` leroy christophe
2013-08-14 16:19       ` Stephen Warren [this message]
2013-08-14 16:29         ` leroy christophe
2013-08-14 16:31           ` Stephen Warren

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