From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: George Dunlap Subject: Re: Xen 4.4 development update -- RFC for feature freeze timeline Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2013 18:36:16 +0100 Message-ID: <524EFC90.7000706@eu.citrix.com> References: <524552B802000078000F7463@nat28.tlf.novell.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: Received: from mail6.bemta5.messagelabs.com ([195.245.231.135]) by lists.xen.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1VS9Ib-00054H-Vy for xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org; Fri, 04 Oct 2013 17:36:22 +0000 In-Reply-To: <524552B802000078000F7463@nat28.tlf.novell.com> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: xen-devel-bounces@lists.xen.org Errors-To: xen-devel-bounces@lists.xen.org To: Jan Beulich Cc: xen-devel List-Id: xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org On 27/09/13 08:41, Jan Beulich wrote: >>>> On 26.09.13 at 18:47, George Dunlap wrote: >> Nonetheless, it does seem likely that delaying for a month may allow a >> significant number of important features to get in. >> >> Any thoughts? > I'm in favor of pushing back by a month as long as this allows at > least a fair share of the listed pending things to go in. Well it's really hard to say -- back in January I said that the USB hot-plug series was basically ready to go in, but it wasn't ready by April when we had the feature freeze. Sometimes I feel like I'm reading tea leaves here. :-) All we can do is make our best stab at things, and then go back and see how we did. > An > alternative would be a weak feature freeze (no new features > except for a well defined set) on the original date, but that would > certainly undermine the stabilizing phase to some degree. Well in theory it would allow "frozen" parts of the code (those not touched by the well-defined set of features) to start stabilizing while we are still working on non-frozen parts. But the non-frozen parts still need to be stabilized, and the features we are talking about including are pretty big and will need a decent amount of time for stabilization; so I don't really see how doing a partial freeze is going to really help that much. -George