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From: Antonio Quartulli <antonio@meshcoding.com>
To: The list for a Better Approach To Mobile Ad-hoc Networking
	<b.a.t.m.a.n@lists.open-mesh.org>
Cc: Felix Fietkau <nbd@openwrt.org>
Subject: Re: [B.A.T.M.A.N.] [RFC 15/23] batman-adv: ELP - send unicast ELP packets for throughput sampling
Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2014 11:02:04 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <52FC981C.50309@meshcoding.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140213095527.GC7193@lunn.ch>

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On 13/02/14 10:55, Andrew Lunn wrote:
>>> Right. If I remember correctly, if you send less than 1 packet per 100
>>> ms, then all packets should end up being probing packets. If that
>>> doesn't work, we can change minstrel's probing pattern to allow things
>>> like batman to get a desirable amount of rate control probing simply by
>>> sending unicast packets.
>>
>> This is what I am trying to achieve here: if no unicast packets have
>> been sent for the last 100ms (at least) then send N probing packets in a
>> row (with N = 2 at the moment - it is a define in main.h).
> 
> Hi Antonio
> 
> One minor thing to consider is that your statement is actually:
> 
> if no _batman_ unicast packets have been sent for the last 100ms ...
> 
> I've used batman in setups where it has not been the exclusive user of
> the hard interface. So there could be other traffic which is keeping
> the RC algorithm up to date. So maybe it would be better to use the
> hard interface statistic counters rather than last time batman sent a
> packet?

We can't use the hard_iface statistics because we need to know where
that traffic has been sent to.
The same interface might connected to several neighbours and the rates
are selected/probed on a per-peer base.

However, to go in the direction that you are suggesting, I could use the
same API I use to read the throughput (cfg80211_get_station()) to also
read when the last packet was sent to a given peer.
This information should be good for our purposes, but it means that we
probe the neighbours right after having read the throughput.

This should not be a problem because as we said in a previous email we
do not require real time throughput updates.


Cheers,


-- 
Antonio Quartulli


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  reply	other threads:[~2014-02-13 10:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-02-11 12:48 [B.A.T.M.A.N.] [RFC 00/23] Introducing a new routing protocol: B.A.T.M.A.N. V Antonio Quartulli
2014-02-11 12:48 ` [B.A.T.M.A.N.] [RFC 01/23] batman-adv: invoke ogm_schedule() only when the interface is activated Antonio Quartulli
2014-02-11 12:48 ` [B.A.T.M.A.N.] [RFC 02/23] batman-adv: Add hard_iface specific sysfs wrapper macros for UINT Antonio Quartulli
2014-02-11 12:48 ` [B.A.T.M.A.N.] [RFC 03/23] batman-adv: ELP - adding basic infrastructure Antonio Quartulli
2014-02-11 12:48 ` [B.A.T.M.A.N.] [RFC 04/23] batman-adv: ELP - creating neighbor structures Antonio Quartulli
2014-02-11 15:32   ` Andrew Lunn
2014-02-11 16:02     ` Antonio Quartulli
2014-02-11 16:11       ` Lew Pitcher
2014-02-11 16:26         ` Antonio Quartulli
2014-02-11 12:48 ` [B.A.T.M.A.N.] [RFC 05/23] batman-adv: ELP - exporting neighbor list via debugfs Antonio Quartulli
2014-02-11 12:48 ` [B.A.T.M.A.N.] [RFC 06/23] batman-adv: ELP - adding sysfs parameter for elp interval Antonio Quartulli
2014-02-11 16:59   ` Andrew Lunn
2014-02-11 17:08     ` Antonio Quartulli
2014-02-11 12:48 ` [B.A.T.M.A.N.] [RFC 07/23] batman-adv: OGMv2 - add basic infrastructure Antonio Quartulli
2014-02-11 17:12   ` Andrew Lunn
2014-02-11 17:52     ` Antonio Quartulli
2014-02-12  7:44       ` Andrew Lunn
2014-02-12  7:58         ` Antonio Quartulli
2014-02-11 12:48 ` [B.A.T.M.A.N.] [RFC 08/23] batman-adv: OGMv2 - implement originators logic Antonio Quartulli
2014-02-11 17:22   ` Andrew Lunn
2014-02-11 17:30     ` Antonio Quartulli
2014-02-11 12:48 ` [B.A.T.M.A.N.] [RFC 09/23] batman-adv: OGMv2 - purge obsolete potential routers Antonio Quartulli
2014-02-11 12:48 ` [B.A.T.M.A.N.] [RFC 10/23] batman-adv: split name from variable for uint mesh attributes Antonio Quartulli
2014-02-11 12:48 ` [B.A.T.M.A.N.] [RFC 11/23] batman-adv: add throughput attribute to hard_ifaces Antonio Quartulli
2014-02-12  8:42   ` Andrew Lunn
2014-02-11 12:48 ` [B.A.T.M.A.N.] [RFC 12/23] batman-adv: add base throughput attribute Antonio Quartulli
2014-02-12  8:40   ` Andrew Lunn
2014-02-12 12:20     ` Antonio Quartulli
2014-02-13  9:36       ` Andrew Lunn
2014-02-13  9:53         ` Antonio Quartulli
2014-02-13  9:57           ` Andrew Lunn
2014-02-11 12:48 ` [B.A.T.M.A.N.] [RFC 13/23] batman-adv: add last_unicast_tx to struct neigh_node_elp Antonio Quartulli
2014-02-12  8:49   ` Andrew Lunn
2014-02-12 12:25     ` Antonio Quartulli
2014-02-11 12:48 ` [B.A.T.M.A.N.] [RFC 14/23] batman-adv: ELP - compute the metric based on the estimated throughput Antonio Quartulli
2014-02-12  8:58   ` Andrew Lunn
2014-02-12 12:27     ` Antonio Quartulli
2014-02-12 15:44       ` Antonio Quartulli
2014-02-13  9:45         ` Andrew Lunn
2014-02-13  9:46           ` Antonio Quartulli
2014-02-11 12:48 ` [B.A.T.M.A.N.] [RFC 15/23] batman-adv: ELP - send unicast ELP packets for throughput sampling Antonio Quartulli
2014-02-12  9:12   ` Andrew Lunn
2014-02-12 12:12     ` Antonio Quartulli
2014-02-12 12:54       ` Felix Fietkau
2014-02-12 12:56         ` Antonio Quartulli
2014-02-12 13:02           ` Antonio Quartulli
2014-02-13  9:55           ` Andrew Lunn
2014-02-13 10:02             ` Antonio Quartulli [this message]
2014-02-13 10:09               ` Andrew Lunn
2014-02-13 10:13                 ` Antonio Quartulli
2014-02-11 12:48 ` [B.A.T.M.A.N.] [RFC 16/23] batman-adv: ELP - read estimated throughput from cfg80211 Antonio Quartulli
2014-02-11 12:48 ` [B.A.T.M.A.N.] [RFC 17/23] batman-adv: ELP - implement dead neigh node detection Antonio Quartulli
2014-02-11 12:48 ` [B.A.T.M.A.N.] [RFC 18/23] batman-adv: ELP - use phydev to determine link characteristics Antonio Quartulli
2014-02-13  8:17   ` Antonio Quartulli
2014-02-13  8:19     ` Antonio Quartulli
2014-02-13 10:52   ` Andrew Lunn
2014-02-13 11:02     ` Antonio Quartulli
2014-02-13 11:44       ` Andrew Lunn
2014-02-14  8:24         ` Antonio Quartulli
2014-02-14 17:38           ` Andrew Lunn
2014-02-14 17:46             ` Antonio Quartulli
2014-02-14 18:18               ` Andrew Lunn
2014-02-14 19:18                 ` Antonio Quartulli
2014-02-11 12:48 ` [B.A.T.M.A.N.] [RFC 19/23] batman-adv: add bat_neigh_free() API Antonio Quartulli
2014-02-11 12:48 ` [B.A.T.M.A.N.] [RFC 20/23] batman-adv: B.A.T.M.A.N. V - implement " Antonio Quartulli
2014-02-11 12:48 ` [B.A.T.M.A.N.] [RFC 21/23] batman-adv: B.A.T.M.A.N. V - implement neigh_is_equiv_or_better API Antonio Quartulli
2014-02-11 12:48 ` [B.A.T.M.A.N.] [RFC 22/23] batman-adv: B.A.T.M.A.N. V - implement bat_neigh_cmp API Antonio Quartulli
2014-02-11 12:48 ` [B.A.T.M.A.N.] [RFC 23/23] batman-adv: B.A.T.M.A.N. V - implement bat_orig_print API Antonio Quartulli

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