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From: Bart Van Assche <bvanassche@acm.org>
To: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>, Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>,
	Nicholas Bellinger <nab@linux-iscsi.org>,
	linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 13/17] scsi: push host_lock down into scsi_{host,target}_queue_ready
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 10:36:20 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5301D814.5070100@acm.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140210200934.GA4096@kernel.dk>

On 02/10/14 21:09, Jens Axboe wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 10 2014, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
>>> I also think we should be getting more utility out of threading
>>> guarantees.  So, if there's only one thread active per device we don't
>>> need any device counters to be atomic.  Likewise, u32 read/write is an
>>> atomic operation, so we might be able to use sloppy counters for the
>>> target and host stuff (one per CPU that are incremented/decremented on
>>> that CPU ... this will only work using CPU locality ... completion on
>>> same CPU but that seems to be an element of a lot of stuff nowadays).
>>
>> The blk-mq code is aiming for CPU locality, but there are no hard
>> guarantees.  I'm also not sure always bouncing around the I/O submission
>> is a win, but it might be something to play around with at the block
>> layer.
>>
>> Jens, did you try something like this earlier?
> 
> Nope, I've always thought that if you needed to bounce submission
> around, you would already have lost. [ ... ]

This comment makes a lot of sense to me. The approach that has been
taken in the scsi-mq patches that have been posted on February 5 is to
associate one blk-mq device with each LUN. That blk-mq device has one
hctx with queue depth shost->cmd_per_lun. So if there are multiple LUNs
per SCSI host the combined hctx queue depth of its LUNs can exceed
shost->can_queue. I'm not sure whether it's possible to prevent this
without modifying the block layer. How about modifying the block layer
such that a single hctx can be shared by multiple block devices and
adding cmd_per_lun support in the block layer ? I think that would allow
to prevent having to bounce submission in the SCSI mid-layer.

Thanks,

Bart.


  reply	other threads:[~2014-02-17  9:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-02-05 12:39 [PATCH 00/17] SCSI data path micro-optimizations Christoph Hellwig
2014-02-05 12:39 ` [PATCH 01/17] scsi: handle command allocation failure in scsi_reset_provider Christoph Hellwig
2014-02-05 12:39 ` [PATCH 02/17] megaraid: simplify internal command handling Christoph Hellwig
2014-02-06 16:40   ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-02-05 12:39 ` [PATCH 03/17] scsi: remove scsi_allocate_command/scsi_free_command Christoph Hellwig
2014-02-05 12:39 ` [PATCH 04/17] scsi: avoid useless free_list lock roundtrips Christoph Hellwig
2014-02-05 23:44   ` James Bottomley
2014-02-06 16:22     ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-02-07  9:05   ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-02-05 12:39 ` [PATCH 05/17] scsi: simplify command allocation and freeing a bit Christoph Hellwig
2014-02-05 23:51   ` James Bottomley
2014-02-06 16:21     ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-02-05 12:39 ` [PATCH 06/17] scsi: add support for per-host cmd pools Christoph Hellwig
2014-02-07  9:13   ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-02-07 12:44     ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-02-07  9:35   ` Mike Christie
2014-02-07 12:46     ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-02-07 21:43       ` Mike Christie
2014-02-10 12:20         ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-02-05 12:39 ` [PATCH 07/17] virtio_scsi: use cmd_size Christoph Hellwig
2014-02-07  9:13   ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-02-05 12:39 ` [PATCH 08/17] scsi: do not manipulate device reference counts in scsi_get/put_command Christoph Hellwig
2014-02-05 12:39 ` [PATCH 09/17] scsi: micro-optimize scsi_request_fn() Christoph Hellwig
2014-02-05 12:39 ` [PATCH 10/17] scsi: micro-optimize scsi_next_command() Christoph Hellwig
2014-02-05 12:39 ` [PATCH 11/17] scsi: micro-optimize scsi_requeue_command() Christoph Hellwig
2014-02-05 12:39 ` [PATCH 12/17] scsi: avoid taking host_lock in scsi_run_queue unless nessecary Christoph Hellwig
2014-02-05 23:54   ` James Bottomley
2014-02-06 16:19     ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-02-05 12:39 ` [PATCH 13/17] scsi: push host_lock down into scsi_{host,target}_queue_ready Christoph Hellwig
2014-02-06 16:56   ` James Bottomley
2014-02-06 17:10     ` Bart Van Assche
2014-02-06 18:41       ` James Bottomley
2014-02-07 10:42         ` Bart Van Assche
2014-02-06 21:58       ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2014-02-07 10:32         ` Bart Van Assche
2014-02-07 19:30           ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2014-02-08 11:00             ` Bart Van Assche
2014-02-09  8:26               ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2014-02-10 12:09                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-02-10 19:53                   ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2014-02-10 11:39     ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-02-10 20:09       ` Jens Axboe
2014-02-17  9:36         ` Bart Van Assche [this message]
2014-02-17 22:00           ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-02-26 15:39             ` Bart Van Assche
2014-02-10 21:10       ` James Bottomley
2014-02-05 12:39 ` [PATCH 14/17] scsi: convert target_busy to an atomic_t Christoph Hellwig
2014-02-05 12:39 ` [PATCH 15/17] scsi: convert host_busy to atomic_t Christoph Hellwig
2014-02-05 12:39 ` [PATCH 16/17] scsi: convert device_busy " Christoph Hellwig
2014-02-05 12:39 ` [PATCH 17/17] scsi: fix the {host,target,device}_blocked counter mess Christoph Hellwig
2014-02-05 23:41 ` [PATCH 00/17] SCSI data path micro-optimizations James Bottomley
2014-02-06 16:29   ` Christoph Hellwig

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