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From: Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de>
To: Cornelia Huck <cornelia.huck@de.ibm.com>
Cc: "kwolf@redhat.com" <kwolf@redhat.com>,
	"peter.maydell@linaro.org" <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	"thuth@linux.vnet.ibm.com" <thuth@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	"marc.zyngier@arm.com" <marc.zyngier@arm.com>,
	"rusty@rustcorp.com.au" <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
	"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	"stefanha@redhat.com" <stefanha@redhat.com>,
	"anthony@codemonkey.ws" <anthony@codemonkey.ws>,
	"pbonzini@redhat.com" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"afaerber@suse.de" <afaerber@suse.de>,
	Greg Kurz <gkurz@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/8] virtio_get_byteswap: function for endian-ambivalent targets using virtio.
Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 17:21:10 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <53038876.50301@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140218171700.5899a8c7.cornelia.huck@de.ibm.com>

On 02/18/2014 05:17 PM, Cornelia Huck wrote:
> On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 17:02:18 +0100
> Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de> wrote:
>
>>
>>> Am 18.02.2014 um 16:45 schrieb Cornelia Huck <cornelia.huck@de.ibm.com>:
>>>
>>> On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 16:12:08 +0100
>>> Cornelia Huck <cornelia.huck@de.ibm.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 17:03:27 +0200
>>>> "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 03:48:38PM +0100, Alexander Graf wrote:
>>>>>>> On 02/18/2014 01:38 PM, Greg Kurz wrote:
>>>>>>> From: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> virtio data structures are defined as "target endian", which assumes
>>>>>>> that's a fixed value.  In fact, that actually means it's
>>>>>>> platform-specific.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The OASIS virtio 1.0 spec will fix this.  Meanwhile, create a hook for
>>>>>>> little endian ppc (and potentially ARM).  This is called at device
>>>>>>> reset time (which is done before any driver is loaded) since it
>>>>>>> may involve a system call to get the status when running under kvm.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [ fixed checkpatch.pl error with the virtio_byteswap initialisation,
>>>>>>>   ldq_phys() API change, Greg Kurz <gkurz@linux.vnet.ibm.com> ]
>>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
>>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Greg Kurz <gkurz@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>> hw/virtio/virtio.c                |    6 ++
>>>>>>> include/hw/virtio/virtio-access.h |  132 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>>> include/hw/virtio/virtio.h        |    2 +
>>>>>>> stubs/Makefile.objs               |    1
>>>>>>> stubs/virtio_get_byteswap.c       |    6 ++
>>>>>>> 5 files changed, 147 insertions(+)
>>>>>>> create mode 100644 include/hw/virtio/virtio-access.h
>>>>>>> create mode 100644 stubs/virtio_get_byteswap.c
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> diff --git a/hw/virtio/virtio.c b/hw/virtio/virtio.c
>>>>>>> index aeabf3a..4fd6ac2 100644
>>>>>>> --- a/hw/virtio/virtio.c
>>>>>>> +++ b/hw/virtio/virtio.c
>>>>>>> @@ -19,6 +19,9 @@
>>>>>>> #include "hw/virtio/virtio.h"
>>>>>>> #include "qemu/atomic.h"
>>>>>>> #include "hw/virtio/virtio-bus.h"
>>>>>>> +#include "hw/virtio/virtio-access.h"
>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>> +bool virtio_byteswap;
>>>>>> Could this be a virtio object property rather than a global? Imagine
>>>>>> an AMP guest system with a BE and an LE system running in parallel
>>>>>> accessing two separate virtio devices. With a single global that
>>>>>> would break.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alex
>>>>> Well, how does a device know which CPU uses it?
>>>>> I suspect we are better off waiting for 1.0 with this one.
>>>> 1.0 makes this a bit more complex, no?
>>>>
>>>> virtio-endian accessors are defined by the endianness of host and guest
>>>> (doing a bswap depends on the host/guest combination). This needs to be
>>>> per qemu instance. (ioctl under kvm? machine option?)
>>>>
>>>> For 1.0, we'll have everything le, so a be host will always do a bswap
>>>> (as will a be guest). But whether a device is 1.0 or legacy is not
>>>> something that can be decided globally, or we can't have transitional
>>>> devices with qemu.
>>> So here are two stupid tables on who needs to do byteswaps, one for
>>> legacy devices, one for 1.0 devices:
>>>
>>> legacy devices:
>>>
>>>             host
>>>        be        le
>>>
>>> g be  host no    host yes
>>> u     guest no   guest no
>>> e
>>> s le  host yes   host no
>>> t     guest no   guest no
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> virtio 1.0 devices:
>>>
>>>             host
>>>        be        le
>>>
>>> g be  host yes   host no
>>> u     guest yes  guest yes
>>> e
>>> s le  host yes   host no
>>> t     guest no   guest no
>>>
>>>
>>> This means byteswaps in qemu always depend on guest-endianness for
>>> legacy and on host-endianness for 1.0. If we want to support
>>> transitional devices with a mixture of legacy/1.0, we'll need both a
>>> per-machine and per-device swap flag:
>>>
>>> virtio_whatever(device, parameters...)
>>> {
>>>     if (device->legacy) {
>>>         if (guest_needs_byteswap) {
>>>             whatever_byteswap(parameters...);
>>>         } else {
>>>             whatever(parameters...);
>>>         }
>>>     } else { /* 1.0 */
>>>         whatever_le(parameters...);
>>>     }
>>> }
>>>
>>> Comments?
>> Yes. My point was that we could move all of the ifery above into the device reset function and from then on only use the swap bool property.
>>
>> Alex
>>
> Hm. So whatever_le for 1.0 devices, and virtio_whatever (checking the
> byteswap value) for legacy devices? The device implementation will be
> aware of the virtio version anyway.

Yeah, but I would hope we want to share as much code as possible here, 
so that config accessors can be shared between legacy virtio and 1.0 
virtio. And in that case we want to have a generic helper to read/write 
pieces of that config space - which this patch introduces for us :).

> (Btw., can some of those architectures supporting both le/be run with
> mixed le/be cpus? That would be a mess for legacy devices.)

Yes, they can. No, we don't care :).


Alex

  reply	other threads:[~2014-02-18 16:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-10-17  3:53 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/7] virtio endian-ambivalent target fixes Rusty Russell
2013-10-17  3:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/7] virtio_get_byteswap: function for endian-ambivalent targets using virtio Rusty Russell
2013-10-17  3:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/7] virtio: allow byte swapping for vring and config access Rusty Russell
2013-10-17  3:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/7] hw/net/virtio-net: use virtio wrappers to access headers Rusty Russell
2013-10-17  3:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/7] hw/net/virtio-balloon: use virtio wrappers to access page frame numbers Rusty Russell
2013-10-17  3:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 5/7] hw/block/virtio-blk: use virtio wrappers to access headers Rusty Russell
2013-10-17  3:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 6/7] hw/scsi/virtio-scsi: " Rusty Russell
2013-10-17  3:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 7/7] hw/char/virtio-serial-bus: " Rusty Russell
2013-11-12 11:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/7] virtio endian-ambivalent target fixes Thomas Huth
2013-11-19 23:59   ` Rusty Russell
2014-02-14  9:38 ` Greg Kurz
2014-02-14 11:59   ` Andreas Färber
2014-02-18 12:38     ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/8] virtio endian-ambivalent target fixes (rebased) Greg Kurz
2014-02-18 12:38       ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/8] virtio_get_byteswap: function for endian-ambivalent targets using virtio Greg Kurz
2014-02-18 14:48         ` Alexander Graf
2014-02-18 15:03           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-02-18 15:02             ` Alexander Graf
2014-02-18 15:11               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-02-18 15:07                 ` Alexander Graf
2014-02-18 15:04             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-02-18 15:12             ` Cornelia Huck
2014-02-18 15:45               ` Cornelia Huck
2014-02-18 16:02                 ` Alexander Graf
2014-02-18 16:17                   ` Cornelia Huck
2014-02-18 16:21                     ` Alexander Graf [this message]
2014-02-20 23:26                       ` Rusty Russell
2014-02-18 23:02           ` Andreas Färber
2014-02-18 19:25         ` Andreas Färber
2014-02-19 10:06           ` Greg Kurz
2014-02-20 23:19             ` Rusty Russell
2014-02-18 12:38       ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/8] virtio: allow byte swapping for vring and config access Greg Kurz
2014-02-18 13:08         ` Cornelia Huck
2014-02-18 13:11           ` Greg Kurz
2014-02-18 12:39       ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/8] hw/net/virtio-net: use virtio wrappers to access headers Greg Kurz
2014-02-18 12:39       ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/8] hw/net/virtio-balloon: use virtio wrappers to access page frame numbers Greg Kurz
2014-02-18 12:39       ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 5/8] hw/block/virtio-blk: use virtio wrappers to access headers Greg Kurz
2014-02-18 12:39       ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 6/8] hw/scsi/virtio-scsi: " Greg Kurz
2014-02-18 12:39       ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 7/8] hw/char/virtio-serial-bus: " Greg Kurz
2014-02-18 12:39       ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 8/8] hw/9pfs/virtio_9p_device: " Greg Kurz
2014-02-18 19:13       ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/8] virtio endian-ambivalent target fixes (rebased) Andreas Färber
2014-02-14 15:57   ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/7] virtio endian-ambivalent target fixes Thomas Huth
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2013-08-12  7:59 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/8] virtio for endian curious guests Take #2 Rusty Russell
2013-08-12  7:59 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/8] virtio_get_byteswap: function for endian-ambivalent targets using virtio Rusty Russell
2013-08-12  9:28   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-08-12  9:39     ` Peter Maydell
2013-08-12  9:43       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-08-12  9:45         ` Peter Maydell
2013-08-12  9:50           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-08-12  9:52             ` Peter Maydell
2013-08-12  9:56               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-08-12 10:36                 ` Peter Maydell
2013-08-12 12:56     ` Anthony Liguori
2013-08-13  4:20       ` Rusty Russell
2013-08-13  5:30         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-08-14  0:03           ` Rusty Russell
2013-09-06  2:27     ` Rusty Russell

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