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From: Stefan Bader <stefan.bader@canonical.com>
To: Ian Campbell <Ian.Campbell@citrix.com>
Cc: libvir-list@redhat.com, Michal Privoznik <mprivozn@redhat.com>,
	xen-devel@lists.xen.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] libxl: Implement basic video device selection
Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2014 12:52:30 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <533E8EEE.5030908__25350.2593412579$1396608860$gmane$org@canonical.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1396607657.4211.190.camel@kazak.uk.xensource.com>


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On 04.04.2014 12:34, Ian Campbell wrote:
> On Fri, 2014-04-04 at 12:31 +0200, Stefan Bader wrote:
>> On 04.04.2014 11:48, Ian Campbell wrote:
>>> On Fri, 2014-04-04 at 11:36 +0200, Stefan Bader wrote:
>>>> +    /*
>>>> +     * Take the first defined video device (graphics card) to display
>>>> +     * on the first graphics device (display).
>>>> +     * Right now only type and vram info is used and anything beside
>>>> +     * type xen and vga is mapped to cirrus.
>>>> +     */
>>>> +    if (def->nvideos) {
>>>> +        unsigned int min_vram = 8 * 1024;
>>>> +
>>>> +        switch (def->videos[0]->type) {
>>>> +            case VIR_DOMAIN_VIDEO_TYPE_VGA:
>>>> +            case VIR_DOMAIN_VIDEO_TYPE_XEN:
>>>> +                b_info->u.hvm.vga.kind = LIBXL_VGA_INTERFACE_TYPE_STD;
>>>> +                /*
>>>> +                 * Libxl enforces a minimal VRAM size of 8M when using
>>>> +                 * LIBXL_DEVICE_MODEL_VERSION_QEMU_XEN_TRADITIONAL or
>>>> +                 * 16M for LIBXL_DEVICE_MODEL_VERSION_QEMU_XEN.
>>>> +                 * Avoid build failures and go with the minimum if less
>>>> +                 * is specified.
>>>
>>> Build failures? Do you mean "domain build" rather than "libvirt build"?
>>>
>>> I'm not sure about this fixing up the GIGO from the user side, but
>>> that's a libvirt policy decision I suppose? If it were me I would just
>>> let libxl provide the error and expect people to fix their domain config
>>> rather than silently giving them something other than what they asked
>>> for. What if increasing the VRAM causes a cascading failure due e.g. to
>>> lack of memory? That's going to be tricky to debug I think!
>>
>> In the end its a start a domain with such a config. Which seems to be what I
>> would end up with in my testing with an admittedly older version of virt-manager
>> connecting to a libvirtd running an initial version of this patch without that part.
>> The error seen on the front-end was something along the lines of "failed to get
>> enough memory to start the guest" (the libxl log on the other side had the
>> better error message). And the gui always reduces the memory below the minimum
>> for both the options (VGA and "Xen").
>> That is the reason I went for "meh, go for the minimum anyways".
> 
> Does the libvirt protocol require the client to provide all the sizes
> etc with no provision for asking the server side to pick a sane default?

I think libvirt itself would be ok with a config that does not enforce a certain
amount of VRAM (libvirt devs correct me if I am talking non-sense here).
But together with the virt-manager front-end that tries to be "helpful" halfway.
I get a incorrect setting which I cannot change from that version of the gui.
Again, never versions might be better.
Just practically I expect some crazy people (like me *cough*) to try this from
an older Desktop release...

> 
>> And btw, it is already confusing enough as with cirrus, I get a 9M by default
>> which is passed on to qemu on the command line and then ignored by it and one
>> gets 32M in any way...
> 
> Lovely!
> 
> Ian.
> 



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  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-04-04 10:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <1395939304-9017-1-git-send-email-stefan.bader@canonical.com>
2014-03-27 16:55 ` [PATCH 1/3] libxl: Use id from virDomainObj inside the driver Stefan Bader
2014-04-03 14:16   ` [libvirt] " Michal Privoznik
2014-03-27 16:55 ` [PATCH 2/3] libxl: Set disk format for empty cdrom device Stefan Bader
2014-04-03 14:16   ` [libvirt] " Michal Privoznik
2014-03-27 16:55 ` [PATCH 3/3] libxl: Implement basic video device selection Stefan Bader
2014-04-03 14:16   ` [libvirt] " Michal Privoznik
2014-03-31 17:14 ` libxl fixes/improvements for libvirt Jim Fehlig
2014-04-03 15:45 ` [libvirt] " Michal Privoznik
     [not found] ` <533D8207.8040402@redhat.com>
2014-04-03 15:49   ` Stefan Bader
2014-04-04  9:36   ` [PATCH v2] libxl: Implement basic video device selection Stefan Bader
     [not found]   ` <1396604199-8198-1-git-send-email-stefan.bader@canonical.com>
2014-04-04  9:48     ` Ian Campbell
     [not found]     ` <1396604917.4211.184.camel@kazak.uk.xensource.com>
2014-04-04 10:31       ` Stefan Bader
     [not found]       ` <533E8A1A.4030904@canonical.com>
2014-04-04 10:34         ` Ian Campbell
2014-04-04 10:34         ` Stefan Bader
     [not found]         ` <1396607657.4211.190.camel@kazak.uk.xensource.com>
2014-04-04 10:52           ` Stefan Bader [this message]
2014-04-04 12:51           ` [libvirt] " Daniel P. Berrange
     [not found]           ` <20140404125113.GA13990@redhat.com>
2014-04-04 12:56             ` Ian Campbell
     [not found]             ` <1396616169.4211.222.camel@kazak.uk.xensource.com>
2014-04-04 13:08               ` Daniel P. Berrange
2014-04-04 13:10               ` Stefan Bader
2014-04-04 13:17     ` Daniel P. Berrange
     [not found]     ` <20140404131711.GD13990@redhat.com>
2014-04-04 13:36       ` Stefan Bader
     [not found]       ` <533EB566.7000903@canonical.com>
2014-04-04 13:51         ` Daniel P. Berrange

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