From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: by yocto-www.yoctoproject.org (Postfix, from userid 118) id D586CE00655; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 13:20:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on yocto-www.yoctoproject.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU, FREEMAIL_FROM, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-HAM-Report: * 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider * (rjohnweber[at]gmail.com) * -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% * [score: 0.0000] * -0.1 DKIM_VALID_AU Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from author's * domain * 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily * valid * -0.1 DKIM_VALID Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature * -0.7 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, low * trust * [209.85.213.43 listed in list.dnswl.org] Received: from mail-yh0-f43.google.com (mail-yh0-f43.google.com [209.85.213.43]) by yocto-www.yoctoproject.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 970DFE004F5 for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 13:20:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-yh0-f43.google.com with SMTP id 29so6196803yhl.30 for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 13:20:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=AaXMS0DpoJrLB/Qbj9Y+tuPWfB2uzLnjL2T/a2TpxMQ=; b=RHb63L0zVLAGWP9/LVOXGKZRe40kh3sZ2xoyiB8/9McandGeZ4HlId3SvUbHdtJ32p D6AVOVz8BSZ8NBms2TKR26qIgeYM5tZnLQTNtjU9ENDlZQqrJSAfxd2fdDnxLIJIUMiK Q5hssGrOmnS2/tjH4m7ArLcyVUezKqLsT4TtLNnwGP+va7sxe7e0fldVYgxoBJy0NBWW 11LQJrVN3fsUorm7DMs5kOzOy/ZCDHmJMpee58c3Gu2KubDZWCIHMCF1T0lW2uel3P7s jkbe04ynSmZFY2ThJHUlbO8K7PpA607J4f99czEpLsXpm75Zn+vpUMBuJPzunJdBjERl CjXA== X-Received: by 10.236.150.46 with SMTP id y34mr67262783yhj.77.1408479653395; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 13:20:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from goober-2.local ([75.76.45.160]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id k29sm43812923yha.33.2014.08.19.13.20.52 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 19 Aug 2014 13:20:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <53F3B1A4.9080105@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 15:20:52 -0500 From: John Weber User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: meta-freescale@yoctoproject.org References: <8f1e8166115a4a4381ded78a5536c001@BY2PR03MB379.namprd03.prod.outlook.com> <23db6296a5b24ce3accdde41476d7d6d@DM2PR0301MB0701.namprd03.prod.outlook.com> <53F3738E.4040902@boundarydevices.com> <53F39AF2.9090008@boundarydevices.com> <3310df336e324285a7539c861de00e93@DM2PR0301MB0701.namprd03.prod.outlook.com> In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: i.MX 3.10.31-1.1.0_beta release - community feedback requested X-BeenThere: meta-freescale@yoctoproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Usage and development list for the meta-fsl-* layers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 20:20:57 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Otavio, On 8/19/14, 3:00 PM, Otavio Salvador wrote: > Hello folks, > > On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 4:23 PM, Lauren Post wrote: > ... >> - Soon 3.10.17 and 3.10.31 graphics will be independent from kernel and would be able to be mixed with each kernel meaning you could use 3.10.31 kernel with v4 graphics (3.10.17) > This is a great step in the right direction. So this alleviate part of > the trouble we have across vendors. So is it going to be done for the > 3.10.31 GA? or still for the Beta? > > What about the VPU? Is 3.10.31 VPU packages compatible with 3.10.17? > >> - Eric's point about upgraded proprietary packages is a good one in that our next chance to update them will only be the 3.10.31 GA release so bugs reported earlier help us get these fixed for GA. > Eric concern, in my understanding, is about the ABI between the binary > blobs and the compatibility against kernel releases. > > What has changed? What is needed to backport? > >> - There is a higher chance of getting bugs fixed NOW for GA then after GA. Please submit bugs via bugzilla and forward me so I can forward to the teams to investigate. > Please subscribe to the Bugzilla so I can assign the current issues to > your account. This easy tracking of reported issues. > >> - Everything for 3.10.31-1.1.0_beta is public on our external git - http://git.freescale.com/ and you can build using our release layer on top of daisy http://git.freescale.com/git/cgit.cgi/imx/fsl-arm-yocto-bsp.git/tree/README?h=imx-3.10.31-1.1.0_beta Try it before making a final decision. Our patches will not be upstreamed until after our field trial concludes this week. > So folks, one question remain open: > > Considering we go with option 2, as seem most people prefer, what to > do regarding the non-updated boards in meta-fsl-arm-extra? > I am for Option 1, though I see Lauren's point concerning the chances of getting bugs fixed before the release of GA if the kernels are being adopted and tested by the community prior to release. I think this will happen as a matter of course if improvements are made. Let developers work with master-next if they want to work with 3.10.31. I only think that a handful of -extra boards adopting 3.10.31, those currently supporting 3.10.17, before 1.7 lockdown. If updates to the proprietary packages break 3.10.17, you'll get a lot of broken machines in the stable release, with a kernel that is beta quality. One comment on the relative quality of beta vs. GA releases. I found that 3.10.17_beta had a number of issues that were fixed in GA. Just my experience. John