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From: Heiko Schocher <hs@denx.de>
To: u-boot@lists.denx.de
Subject: [U-Boot] [PATCH v2 13/40] i2c: Add high-level API
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2014 09:07:58 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <53FD83CE.3050105@denx.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140827062124.GE15640@ulmo>

Hello Thierry,

Am 27.08.2014 08:21, schrieb Thierry Reding:
> On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 07:21:51AM +0200, Heiko Schocher wrote:
>> Hello Thierry,
>>
>> Am 26.08.2014 17:34, schrieb Thierry Reding:
>>> From: Thierry Reding<treding@nvidia.com>
>>>
>>> This API operates on I2C adapters or I2C clients (a new type of object
>>
>> which is a bad idea ...
>>
>>> that refers to a particular slave connected to an adapter). This is
>>> useful to avoid having to call i2c_set_bus_num() whenever a device is
>>> being accessed.
>>
>> But thats the supose of i2c_set_bus_num()! ... if you use an i2c bus,
>> you must check before every access, if you are on it, if not, you must
>> switch back to it...
>
> That's not what code does today. Everybody calls i2c_set_bus_num() once
> and then does a bunch of transactions on that bus. Given that U-Boot

Yes, sadly. This has historical reasons ...

> doesn't run multithreaded this works. If you're really concerned about

Yes, U-Boot is singlethread only.

> this being a problem, then it should be solved at a different level. It
> could be part of i2c_client for example, so that i2c_client_read() and
> i2c_client_write() would always perform this step. Burdening users with

Exactly, thats right, and this is a goal from the CONFIG_SYS_I2C API!

But why do you introduce i2c_client_read/write and do not add this step
to i2c_read/write?

- convert all i2c drivers, which are not yet converted to CONFIG_SYS_I2C
   (get also rid od CONFIG_HARD_I2C)
- add busnumber to i2c_read/write API and make i2c_set_bus_num() static ...
   and fix all i2c_read/write() calls in U-Boot code ...

I know, this is a big change and a lot of work ... thats the reason
why we are not at this point ... nobody volunteered to go forward, and
I did not found time to do it ...

> this isn't going to work (in a multithreaded environment the switch to a
> different mux could happen between the call to i2c_set_bus_num() and the
> bus access).
>
> In fact I think this would even have to be solved at the controller
> level if you want to make sure that client transactions are atomic.

As U-Boot is single threaded all i2c_read/writes are atomic.

>> This is collected in i2c_set_bus_num() ... before, every "user" did
>> this on his own ... if you are on the bus you want to access, the
>> overhead is not so big, see:
>>
>> http://git.denx.de/?p=u-boot.git;a=blob;f=drivers/i2c/i2c_core.c;h=18d6736601c161f45cb7d81b5eae53bdeaaf6b0b;hb=7bee1c91a94db19bd26f92cc67be35d3592c6429#l278
>>
>>   278 int i2c_set_bus_num(unsigned int bus)
>>   279 {
>>   280         int max;
>>   281
>>   282         if ((bus == I2C_BUS)&&  (I2C_ADAP->init_done>  0))
>>   283                 return 0;
>>
>> And you must be aware of i2c muxes! You directly use the read/write
>> functions from the i2c adapter, but what is if you have i2c muxes?
>
> That's complexity that users shouldn't have to worry about. They should

Exactly!

> simply access an adapter and the adapter (or rather the core) should
> take care of setting up any muxes correctly.

Yes!

I think you mix here i2c adapter with bus. An "U-Boot i2c adapter" is a
hw adapter (or special case soft i2c adapter). An "i2c bus" is a hw adapter
maybe with m muxes, and each bus has exactly one way through the
i2c muxes, see for an example the README:

http://git.denx.de/?p=u-boot.git;a=blob;f=README;h=14d6b227d689825025f9dfc98fb305021882446d;hb=7bee1c91a94db19bd26f92cc67be35d3592c6429#l2349

So the only thing a User must know when he wants to use an i2c bus is
his number. The switching to this i2c adapter, initializing it and maybe
set i2c muxes does the i2c subsystem ...

>> Maybe there is on one i2c adapter a i2c mux with 4 ports. On one is
>> an eeprom, on the other is a PMIC ... your code in patch
>> "power: Add AMS AS3722 PMIC support" does access with your functions
>> the PMIC ... what is, if between this accesses someone accesses the eeprom?
>> If he switches the mux, you never switch back!
>>
>> Your code did not check this!
>
> Like I said, a lot of code in U-Boot doesn't check this. And quite

With using i2c_set_bus_num() you have not to check this! You only have
to call i2c_set_bus_num() before calling i2c_read/write ... and yes,
that would be nice, if we just pass the bus number to i2c_read/write()
and drop the i2c_set_bus_num() call all over the code ...

Patches welcome!

> frankly as long as this isn't handled in the core I don't think people
> will get it right.

Yes, full ack, which is the goal from CONFIG_SYS_I2C. If all i2c
driver are converted to it, we can make i2c_set_bus_num() static, and
add to the i2c API the bus number as a function parameter!

>> Why is i2c_set_bus_num() such a problem?
>
> Because it's completely confusing. And it's exposing an implementation
> detail to users instead of handling it transparently in the core.

Yes! Full Ack ... but I do not accept a new API for that! Please
fix the i2c_read/write() functions!

bye,
Heiko
-- 
DENX Software Engineering GmbH,     MD: Wolfgang Denk & Detlev Zundel
HRB 165235 Munich, Office: Kirchenstr.5, D-82194 Groebenzell, Germany

  reply	other threads:[~2014-08-27  7:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 104+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-08-26 15:33 [U-Boot] [PATCH v2 00/40] ARM: tegra: Add PCIe support Thierry Reding
2014-08-26 15:33 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v2 01/40] vsprintf: Add modifier for phys_addr_t Thierry Reding
2014-08-26 17:04   ` Stephen Warren
2014-08-27  7:01     ` Thierry Reding
2014-08-27 17:41       ` Stephen Warren
2014-08-28 10:38         ` Thierry Reding
2014-09-17  0:44           ` [U-Boot] [U-Boot, v2, " Tom Rini
2014-08-26 23:14   ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v2 " Simon Glass
2014-08-27  7:37     ` Thierry Reding
2014-08-27 15:24       ` Simon Glass
2014-08-26 15:33 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v2 02/40] fdt: Add a function to count strings Thierry Reding
2014-08-27 18:51   ` Simon Glass
2014-09-08 15:01     ` Simon Glass
2014-08-26 15:33 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v2 03/40] fdt: Add a function to get the index of a string Thierry Reding
2014-08-27 18:51   ` Simon Glass
2014-09-08 15:02     ` Simon Glass
2014-08-26 15:33 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v2 04/40] fdt: Add functions to retrieve strings Thierry Reding
2014-08-27 18:53   ` Simon Glass
2014-09-08 15:02     ` Simon Glass
2015-03-25 23:23       ` Simon Glass
2015-07-14 19:48         ` Simon Glass
2015-07-15 11:17           ` Thierry Reding
2015-07-15 11:35             ` Albert ARIBAUD
2015-07-15 11:52               ` Thierry Reding
2014-08-26 15:33 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v2 05/40] fdt: Add resource parsing functions Thierry Reding
2014-08-27 18:53   ` Simon Glass
2014-09-08 15:02   ` Simon Glass
2014-08-26 15:33 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v2 06/40] fdt: Add a function to return PCI BDF triplet Thierry Reding
2014-09-08 15:03   ` Simon Glass
2014-08-26 15:33 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v2 07/40] fdt: Add a subnodes iterator macro Thierry Reding
2014-09-08 15:03   ` Simon Glass
2014-08-26 15:33 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v2 08/40] pci: Abort early if bus does not exist Thierry Reding
2014-08-26 15:33 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v2 09/40] pci: Honour pci_skip_dev() Thierry Reding
2014-08-26 15:33 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v2 10/40] Add pr_fmt() macro Thierry Reding
2014-08-26 15:33 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v2 11/40] i2c: Initialize the correct bus Thierry Reding
2014-08-27  4:52   ` Heiko Schocher
2014-08-27  5:12     ` Thierry Reding
2014-08-27  5:26       ` Heiko Schocher
2014-08-26 15:34 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v2 12/40] i2c: Refactor adapter initialization Thierry Reding
2014-08-26 15:34 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v2 13/40] i2c: Add high-level API Thierry Reding
2014-08-27  5:21   ` Heiko Schocher
2014-08-27  6:21     ` Thierry Reding
2014-08-27  7:07       ` Heiko Schocher [this message]
2014-08-27  8:51         ` Thierry Reding
2014-08-27  9:56           ` Heiko Schocher
2014-08-27 11:41             ` Thierry Reding
2014-08-27 19:10               ` Simon Glass
2014-08-28  9:53                 ` Heiko Schocher
2014-08-26 15:34 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v2 14/40] i2c: tegra: Implement i2c_get_bus_num_fdt() Thierry Reding
2014-09-02 19:24   ` Simon Glass
2014-08-26 15:34 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v2 15/40] power: Add AMS AS3722 PMIC support Thierry Reding
2014-08-27  5:26   ` Heiko Schocher
2014-08-27  6:28     ` Thierry Reding
2014-08-27  7:18       ` Heiko Schocher
2014-08-26 15:34 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v2 16/40] ARM: tegra: Implement tegra_plle_enable() Thierry Reding
2014-08-26 15:34 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v2 17/40] ARM: tegra: Provide PCIEXCLK reset ID Thierry Reding
2014-08-26 15:34 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v2 18/40] ARM: tegra: Implement powergate support Thierry Reding
2014-08-26 15:34 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v2 19/40] ARM: tegra: Implement XUSB pad controller Thierry Reding
2014-08-26 15:34 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v2 20/40] ARM: tegra: Add XUSB pad controller on Tegra124 Thierry Reding
2014-08-26 15:34 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v2 21/40] ARM: tegra: Enable XUSB pad controller on Jetson TK1 Thierry Reding
2014-08-26 15:34 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v2 22/40] pci: tegra: Add Tegra PCIe driver Thierry Reding
2014-08-26 15:34 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v2 23/40] ARM: tegra: Add Tegra20 PCIe device tree node Thierry Reding
2014-08-26 15:34 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v2 24/40] ARM: tegra: Enable PCIe on TrimSlice Thierry Reding
2014-08-26 15:34 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v2 25/40] ARM: tegra: Add GIC for Tegra30 Thierry Reding
2014-08-26 15:34 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v2 26/40] ARM: tegra: Add Tegra30 PCIe device tree node Thierry Reding
2014-08-26 15:34 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v2 27/40] ARM: tegra: Enable PCIe on Cardhu Thierry Reding
2014-08-26 15:34 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v2 28/40] ARM: tegra: Enable PCIe on Beaver Thierry Reding
2014-08-26 15:34 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v2 29/40] ARM: tegra: Add GIC for Tegra124 Thierry Reding
2014-08-26 15:34 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v2 30/40] ARM: tegra: Add Tegra124 PCIe device tree node Thierry Reding
2014-08-26 15:34 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v2 31/40] ARM: tegra: Enable PCIe on Jetson TK1 Thierry Reding
2014-08-26 15:34 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v2 32/40] ARM: cache_v7: Various minor cleanups Thierry Reding
2014-08-27 18:56   ` Simon Glass
2014-11-08  8:30   ` Albert ARIBAUD
2014-08-26 15:34 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v2 33/40] ARM: cache-cp15: Use more accurate types Thierry Reding
2014-08-27 18:57   ` Simon Glass
2014-11-08  8:31   ` Albert ARIBAUD
2014-08-26 15:34 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v2 34/40] malloc: Output region when debugging Thierry Reding
2014-08-27 18:58   ` Simon Glass
2014-11-08  8:31   ` Albert ARIBAUD
2014-08-26 15:34 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v2 35/40] ARM: Implement non-cached memory support Thierry Reding
2014-08-27 19:07   ` Simon Glass
2014-10-24 19:11   ` Stephen Warren
2014-11-12 15:49     ` Simon Glass
2014-08-26 15:34 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v2 36/40] ARM: tegra: Enable non-cached memory Thierry Reding
2014-08-26 15:34 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v2 37/40] net: rtl8169: Honor CONFIG_SYS_RX_ETH_BUFFER Thierry Reding
2014-08-26 15:34 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v2 38/40] net: rtl8169: Properly align buffers Thierry Reding
2014-11-12 23:37   ` Nobuhiro Iwamatsu
2014-08-26 15:34 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v2 39/40] net: rtl8169: Use non-cached memory if available Thierry Reding
2014-08-26 15:34 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v2 40/40] net: rtl8169: Add support for RTL-8168/8111g Thierry Reding
2014-09-11 16:00 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v2 00/40] ARM: tegra: Add PCIe support Albert ARIBAUD
2014-09-11 16:17   ` Stephen Warren
2014-09-11 19:20     ` Simon Glass
2014-09-18  8:43       ` Albert ARIBAUD
2014-09-18 18:01         ` Simon Glass
2014-10-23  3:07   ` Simon Glass
2014-10-23  8:11     ` Thierry Reding
2014-10-23 18:33       ` Simon Glass
2014-09-28 22:48 ` Simon Glass
2014-09-29  8:11   ` Thierry Reding
2014-09-29 13:54     ` Simon Glass
2014-10-06 12:24     ` Heiko Schocher
2014-10-26 19:07 ` Albert ARIBAUD
2014-10-26 19:29   ` Albert ARIBAUD
2014-10-27 23:55   ` Simon Glass

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