From: Lars-Peter Clausen <lars@metafoo.de>
To: "Alexander E. Patrakov" <patrakov@gmail.com>,
Raymond Yau <superquad.vortex2@gmail.com>
Cc: Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>,
ALSA Development Mailing List <alsa-devel@alsa-project.org>,
Clemens Ladisch <clemens@ladisch.de>,
David Henningsson <david.henningsson@canonical.com>,
Takashi Sakamoto <o-takashi@sakamocchi.jp>
Subject: Re: Master Plan on rewinding
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2014 15:44:08 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <542027A8.1060300@metafoo.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <542025F7.4000708@gmail.com>
On 09/22/2014 03:36 PM, Alexander E. Patrakov wrote:
> 22.09.2014 19:20, Lars-Peter Clausen wrote:
>>>
>>> Does this mean the those sound card can report
>>> DMA_RESIDUE_GRANULARITY_BURST and driver use readl in pcm pointer
>>> callback ?
>>>
>>> A few PCI sound cards use SG buffer including hda
>>>
>>> It seem that pulseaudio expect the driver support
>>> DMA_RESIDUE_GRANULARITY_BURST for rewind/ timer scheduling
>>
>> Yes. This is why we set the BATCH flag if the granularity is not
>> DMA_RESIDUE_GRANULARITY_BURST so for example pulse audio can disable
>> timer scheduling.
>
> For the record, disabling timer-based scheduling is IMHO a matter of further
> discussion. As long as there is enough safeguard, I think that timer-based
> scheduling can still be used, and is useful. A living proof is the whole
> story with the snd-usb-audio driver where (justified) addition of the BATCH
> flag was perceived as a performance regression and not as a fix to some real
> and obvious problem.
>
> I do agree that such devices need to be marked up with the BATCH flag, so
> that PulseAudio chooses reasonable hardware parameters.
>
When I tried things it looks like it was more than just the safeguard
threshold. It looked as if the algorithm that adjusts the wake-up time gets
confused if the granularity is not good enough and just wakes up at the
wrong point which leads to glitches. This can probably be fixed though by
modifying the algorithm to take the granularity into account.
- Lars
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-09-22 13:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-09-07 15:16 Master Plan on rewinding Alexander E. Patrakov
2014-09-07 18:38 ` Tanu Kaskinen
2014-09-07 19:05 ` Alexander E. Patrakov
2014-09-07 20:51 ` Clemens Ladisch
2014-09-08 3:06 ` Raymond Yau
2014-09-08 7:31 ` Alexander E. Patrakov
2014-09-09 8:43 ` Clemens Ladisch
2014-09-09 8:55 ` Alexander E. Patrakov
2014-09-09 9:08 ` David Henningsson
2014-09-09 9:31 ` Alexander E. Patrakov
2014-09-21 2:02 ` Raymond Yau
2014-09-22 13:20 ` Lars-Peter Clausen
2014-09-22 13:36 ` Alexander E. Patrakov
2014-09-22 13:44 ` Lars-Peter Clausen [this message]
2014-09-23 8:29 ` Raymond Yau
2014-09-23 10:22 ` Alexander E. Patrakov
2014-09-09 13:45 ` Clemens Ladisch
2014-09-09 15:55 ` Alexander E. Patrakov
2014-09-09 16:09 ` Takashi Iwai
2014-09-07 23:12 ` David Henningsson
2014-09-09 19:56 ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2014-09-10 5:38 ` Alexander E. Patrakov
2014-09-08 7:34 ` Lars-Peter Clausen
2014-09-08 7:59 ` David Henningsson
2014-09-08 8:46 ` Alexander E. Patrakov
2014-09-08 9:26 ` David Henningsson
2014-09-08 10:21 ` Alexander E. Patrakov
2014-09-09 8:43 ` Clemens Ladisch
2014-09-11 3:49 ` Raymond Yau
2014-09-11 4:19 ` A. C. Censi
2014-09-13 9:15 ` Raymond Yau
2014-09-11 5:28 ` Alexander E. Patrakov
2014-09-11 6:21 ` Raymond Yau
2014-09-13 8:57 ` Raymond Yau
2014-09-13 10:43 ` Alexander E. Patrakov
2014-09-13 11:33 ` Raymond Yau
2014-09-13 11:36 ` Alexander E. Patrakov
2014-09-13 18:35 ` Alexander E. Patrakov
2014-09-14 11:37 ` Raymond Yau
2014-09-14 12:07 ` Alexander E. Patrakov
2014-09-15 2:43 ` Raymond Yau
2014-09-15 9:19 ` Takashi Iwai
2014-09-15 9:58 ` Alexander E. Patrakov
2014-09-15 10:08 ` Takashi Iwai
2014-09-15 17:01 ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2014-09-15 17:14 ` Alexander E. Patrakov
2014-09-15 18:08 ` Takashi Iwai
2014-09-18 1:15 ` Raymond Yau
2014-09-21 9:22 ` Alexander E. Patrakov
2014-09-21 9:53 ` Clemens Ladisch
2014-09-21 10:56 ` Alexander E. Patrakov
2014-09-22 3:27 ` Raymond Yau
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