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From: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
To: Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Cc: Luiz Capitulino <lcapitulino@redhat.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <srostedt@redhat.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch -rt 1/2] KVM: use simple waitqueue for vcpu->wq
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2014 14:08:15 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5474D39F.4010206@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5474D121.4070905@redhat.com>

On 11/25/2014 01:57 PM, Rik van Riel wrote:
> On 11/25/2014 12:21 PM, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
>> The problem:
>>
>> On -RT, an emulated LAPIC timer instances has the following path:
>>
>> 1) hard interrupt
>> 2) ksoftirqd is scheduled
>> 3) ksoftirqd wakes up vcpu thread
>> 4) vcpu thread is scheduled
>>
>> This extra context switch introduces unnecessary latency in the 
>> LAPIC path for a KVM guest.
>>
>> The solution:
>>
>> Allow waking up vcpu thread from hardirq context,
>> thus avoiding the need for ksoftirqd to be scheduled.
>>
>> Normal waitqueues make use of spinlocks, which on -RT 
>> are sleepable locks. Therefore, waking up a waitqueue 
>> waiter involves locking a sleeping lock, which 
>> is not allowed from hard interrupt context.
>>
> 
> What are the consequences for the realtime kernel of
> making waitqueue traversal non-preemptible?
> 
> Is waitqueue traversal something that ever takes so
> long we need to care about it being non-preemptible?

I answered my own question.

This patch only changes the kvm vcpu waitqueue,
which should only ever have the vcpu thread itself
waiting on it. In other words, it is a wait "queue"
of just one entry long, and the latency of traversing
it will be absolutely minimal.

Unless someone can think of a better way to implement
this patch, it gets my:

Acked-by: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>


  reply	other threads:[~2014-11-25 19:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-11-25 17:21 [patch -rt 0/2] use simple waitqueue for kvm vcpu waitqueue (v2) Marcelo Tosatti
2014-11-25 17:21 ` [patch -rt 1/2] KVM: use simple waitqueue for vcpu->wq Marcelo Tosatti
2014-11-25 18:57   ` Rik van Riel
2014-11-25 19:08     ` Rik van Riel [this message]
2014-11-25 19:30     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2014-11-25 20:23     ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-11-25 17:21 ` [patch -rt 2/2] KVM: lapic: mark LAPIC timer handler as irqsafe Marcelo Tosatti
2014-11-25 17:38   ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-11-25 17:38     ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-11-25 19:01     ` Jan Kiszka
2014-12-04 13:43     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2014-11-25 19:11   ` Rik van Riel
2014-11-25 20:24     ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-12-04 13:53       ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-12-04 13:53         ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-12-05 16:17         ` Marcelo Tosatti
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2015-04-08 23:33 [patch -rt 0/2] use simple waitqueue for kvm vcpu waitqueue (v5) Marcelo Tosatti
2015-04-08 23:33 ` [patch -rt 1/2] KVM: use simple waitqueue for vcpu->wq Marcelo Tosatti
2015-01-21 20:36 [patch -rt 0/2] use simple waitqueue for kvm vcpu waitqueue (v4) Marcelo Tosatti
2015-01-21 20:36 ` [patch -rt 1/2] KVM: use simple waitqueue for vcpu->wq Marcelo Tosatti
2015-01-14 17:12 [patch -rt 0/2] use simple waitqueue for kvm vcpu waitqueue (v3) Marcelo Tosatti
2015-01-14 17:12 ` [patch -rt 1/2] KVM: use simple waitqueue for vcpu->wq Marcelo Tosatti
2015-01-14 18:22   ` Rik van Riel
2015-01-16 16:48   ` Steven Rostedt
2015-01-16 16:56     ` Steven Rostedt
2015-01-17  7:57     ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-01-19 14:41     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2015-01-20  5:46       ` Paul Mackerras
2015-01-20 18:16         ` Steven Rostedt
2015-01-21 15:07           ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-17 17:44             ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2015-02-18 14:03               ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-25 21:02                 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2015-08-07 10:57                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-08-07 11:14                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-08-07 11:14                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-08-07 16:41                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-08-07 16:45                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-08-09  6:39                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-08-17 20:31                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-02-27  0:23               ` Marcelo Tosatti
2015-03-05  1:09                 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2015-03-05  1:09                   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2015-03-05  7:42                   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2015-03-06 13:54   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2014-11-25 16:45 [patch -rt 0/2] use simple waitqueue for kvm vcpu waitqueue Marcelo Tosatti
2014-11-25 16:45 ` [patch -rt 1/2] KVM: use simple waitqueue for vcpu->wq Marcelo Tosatti

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