From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: xerofoify@gmail.com (nick) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2014 13:53:02 -0500 Subject: Asus N53 USB WiFi Driver porting In-Reply-To: <4E5779AD88B2F040B8A7E83ECF544D1A590188@SJCPEX01CL03.citrite.net> References: <75305.1418913430@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> <20141218162651.GB8225@kroah.com> <549313C0.60709@gmail.com> <4E5779AD88B2F040B8A7E83ECF544D1A590188@SJCPEX01CL03.citrite.net> Message-ID: <5493228E.4040806@gmail.com> To: kernelnewbies@lists.kernelnewbies.org List-Id: kernelnewbies.lists.kernelnewbies.org On 2014-12-18 01:17 PM, Jeff Haran wrote: >> -----Original Message----- >> From: kernelnewbies-bounces+jeff.haran=citrix.com at kernelnewbies.org >> [mailto:kernelnewbies-bounces+jeff.haran=citrix.com at kernelnewbies.org] On >> Behalf Of nick >> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 9:50 AM >> To: Greg KH; Abhishek Sharma >> Cc: Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu; santy30 at gmail.com; Abhishek Sharma; Kernel >> Newbies >> Subject: Re: Asus N53 USB WiFi Driver porting >> >> >> >> On 2014-12-18 11:26 AM, Greg KH wrote: >>> On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 08:18:24PM +0530, Abhishek Sharma wrote: >>>> Hi Valdis, >>>> Thanks for your reply. >>>> I do not want to change kernel. >>> >>> "do not want to" is very different from "applications can not be >>> ported to newer kernels". >>> >>> Please realize that the Linux kernel developers have spent the last >>> decade ensuring that you should be able to update to the latest kernel >>> version with no problems or changes needed in your applications. Lots >>> of companies now realize this and have no problem updating to a newer >>> kernel, while running their old applications. >>> >>> So please don't spread misinformation about how applications will >>> break with new kernel versions, that is almost always not a true statement. >>> >>> thanks, >>> >>> greg k-h >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Kernelnewbies mailing list >>> Kernelnewbies at kernelnewbies.org >>> http://lists.kernelnewbies.org/mailman/listinfo/kernelnewbies >>> >> Abhishek, >> I am to agree with Greg KH here. The kernel community does a very good job >> of not breaking APIs for applications or regressions. Linus also has openly stated >> he will not accept any patches in the main line kernel tree if they break user >> space so you should be fine. Further more to be honest I am very impressed >> with the amount of how little APIs or regressions we get compared to the >> amount of commits. Abhishek, in addition this seems more like you don't know >> or are afraid of compiling the kernel over anything else. If you want post lsmod >> output from your system so I can help teach you how to build the kernel >> correctly. >> Nick > > If it's a custom board, bringing up new kernel versions can be a quite daunting task that the management of engineering organizations is more often than not loathe to undertake. It can take a lot of education to convince them that the pain and unpredictable development schedule hit of a kernel upgrade is more than compensated for by the increases in stability and features one gets when one goes through the process. > > Jeff Haran > Jeff, You are a 100% correct. I am assuming it wasn't a custom board but if it is them, you are right it's a lot of engineering work and time. Nick