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From: Julien Grall <julien.grall@linaro.org>
To: Jan Beulich <JBeulich@suse.com>, Ian Campbell <ian.campbell@citrix.com>
Cc: xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org, stefano.stabellini@citrix.com,
	tim@xen.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 18/24] xen/passthrough: iommu_deassign_device_dt: By default reassign device to nobody
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2015 10:10:07 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <54EAFC7F.6030101@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <54EB039202000078000625F8@mail.emea.novell.com>

Hi Jan,

On 23/02/2015 09:40, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>>> On 20.02.15 at 18:04, <ian.campbell@citrix.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, 2015-01-13 at 14:25 +0000, Julien Grall wrote:
>>> Currently, when the device is deassigned from a domain, we directly reassign
>>> to DOM0.
>>>
>>> As the device may not have been correctly reset, this may lead to corruption
>> or
>>> expose some part of DOM0 memory. Also, we may have no way to reset some
>>> platform devices.
>>>
>>> If Xen reassigns the device to "nobody", it may receive some global/context
>>> fault because the transaction has failed (indeed the context has been
>>> marked invalid). Unfortunately there is no simple way to quiesce a buggy
>>> hardware. I think we could live with that for a first version of platform
>>> device passthrough.
>>>
>>> DOM0 will have to issue an hypercall to assign the device to itself if it
>>> wants to use it.
>>
>> Does this behaviour differ from x86? If so then it is worth calling that
>> out explicitly (even if not, good to know I think!)
> Indeed this is different from x86, and I think such behavior should
> be consistent across architectures. If Dom0 isn't handed back the
> device, who's going to do the supposedly prerequisite reset? On
> x86/PCI that's pciback's job, and it would be illegitimate for the
> driver to do _anything_ with the device if it wasn't owned by Dom0.

I think we already had this discussion on a previous version...

Right now, there is no possibility to reset a platform device in the 
kernel. There is some discussion about it but nothing more.

This series doesn't intend to have a generic solution for platform 
device pass-through. It's target embedded people who will always 
passthrough the same device to the same guest.

As DOM0 *should not* use the device (no reset driver, and no possibility 
to unbind), the safest way is to reassign the device to nobody.

So if the device is not quiescent it may mess up DOM0.

Regards,

-- 
Julien Grall

  reply	other threads:[~2015-02-23 10:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 251+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-01-13 14:25 [PATCH v3 00/24] xen/arm: Add support for non-pci passthrough Julien Grall
2015-01-13 14:25 ` [PATCH v3 01/24] xen: Extend DOMCTL createdomain to support arch configuration Julien Grall
2015-01-13 15:08   ` Daniel De Graaf
2015-01-19 16:46   ` Jan Beulich
2015-01-20 12:40     ` Julien Grall
2015-01-28 15:50   ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-02-20 15:15   ` Ian Campbell
2015-02-20 16:09     ` Julien Grall
2015-02-20 16:37       ` Jan Beulich
2015-02-23 15:09       ` Ian Campbell
2015-02-20 16:35     ` Jan Beulich
2015-02-23 15:48     ` Andrew Cooper
2015-02-23 16:00       ` Ian Campbell
2015-02-23 21:48         ` Julien Grall
2015-02-24 10:06           ` Ian Campbell
2015-01-13 14:25 ` [PATCH v3 02/24] xen/arm: Divide GIC initialization in 2 parts Julien Grall
2015-01-28 16:09   ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-02-20 15:19     ` Ian Campbell
2015-02-20 15:19   ` Ian Campbell
2015-01-13 14:25 ` [PATCH v3 03/24] xen/dts: Allow only IRQ translation that are mapped to main GIC Julien Grall
2015-01-28 16:11   ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-02-20 15:20   ` Ian Campbell
2015-01-13 14:25 ` [PATCH v3 04/24] xen: guestcopy: Provide an helper to safely copy string from guest Julien Grall
2015-01-13 15:10   ` Daniel De Graaf
2015-01-19 16:51   ` Jan Beulich
2015-01-20 12:45     ` Julien Grall
2015-01-20 13:16       ` Jan Beulich
2015-02-20 15:22   ` Ian Campbell
2015-01-13 14:25 ` [PATCH v3 05/24] xen/arm: vgic: Introduce a function to initialize pending_irq Julien Grall
2015-02-20 15:24   ` Ian Campbell
2015-01-13 14:25 ` [PATCH v3 06/24] xen/arm: Map disabled device in DOM0 Julien Grall
2015-01-28 16:18   ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-01-28 16:23     ` Julien Grall
2015-01-29 11:41       ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-02-20 15:27   ` Ian Campbell
2015-01-13 14:25 ` [PATCH v3 07/24] xen/arm: Introduce xen, passthrough property Julien Grall
2015-01-28 16:36   ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-01-28 16:53     ` Julien Grall
2015-01-29 11:43       ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-02-20 15:38   ` Ian Campbell
2015-02-20 17:01     ` Julien Grall
2015-02-23 15:12       ` Ian Campbell
2015-02-23 15:43         ` Julien Grall
2015-02-20 15:42   ` Ian Campbell
2015-02-20 17:03     ` Julien Grall
2015-02-23 15:15       ` Ian Campbell
2015-02-23 15:44         ` Julien Grall
2015-01-13 14:25 ` [PATCH v3 08/24] xen/arm: Allow virq != irq Julien Grall
2015-01-28 16:47   ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-01-28 16:56     ` Julien Grall
2015-01-28 17:00       ` Julien Grall
2015-01-29 11:50       ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-02-20 15:52   ` Ian Campbell
2015-02-20 17:09     ` Julien Grall
2015-02-27 14:33       ` Julien Grall
2015-02-27 14:44         ` Ian Campbell
2015-02-27 15:55           ` Julien Grall
2015-02-27 14:25     ` Julien Grall
2015-01-13 14:25 ` [PATCH v3 09/24] xen/arm: route_irq_to_guest: Check validity of the IRQ Julien Grall
2015-01-28 17:55   ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-01-28 18:05     ` Julien Grall
2015-01-29 11:52       ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-02-20 16:00   ` Ian Campbell
2015-02-20 17:21     ` Julien Grall
2015-01-13 14:25 ` [PATCH v3 10/24] xen/arm: gic: Add sanity checks gic_route_irq_to_guest Julien Grall
2015-01-28 18:15   ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-02-20 16:07   ` Ian Campbell
2015-02-20 17:28     ` Julien Grall
2015-02-23 15:20       ` Ian Campbell
2015-02-23 15:47         ` Julien Grall
2015-02-23 15:52           ` Ian Campbell
2015-02-23 15:54             ` Julien Grall
2015-02-23 16:04               ` Ian Campbell
2015-01-13 14:25 ` [PATCH v3 11/24] xen/arm: Let the toolstack configure the number of SPIs Julien Grall
2015-01-28 18:26   ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-01-28 18:58     ` Julien Grall
2015-01-29 12:01       ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-01-29 12:14         ` Julien Grall
2015-02-20 16:08     ` Ian Campbell
2015-02-20 17:29       ` Julien Grall
2015-02-23 15:22         ` Ian Campbell
2015-02-23 15:48           ` Julien Grall
2015-02-20 16:23   ` Ian Campbell
2015-02-20 17:31     ` Julien Grall
2015-01-13 14:25 ` [PATCH v3 12/24] xen/arm: Release IRQ routed to a domain when it's destroying Julien Grall
2015-01-28 18:38   ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-02-20 16:31   ` Ian Campbell
2015-02-20 17:41     ` Julien Grall
2015-02-23 15:25       ` Ian Campbell
2015-02-23 15:49         ` Julien Grall
2015-03-03 12:50       ` Julien Grall
2015-01-13 14:25 ` [PATCH v3 13/24] xen/arm: Implement hypercall PHYSDEVOP_{, un}map_pirq Julien Grall
2015-01-19 16:54   ` Jan Beulich
2015-01-20 14:01     ` Julien Grall
2015-01-28 18:52   ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-01-28 19:04     ` Julien Grall
2015-01-29 12:17       ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-01-29 12:26         ` Julien Grall
2015-01-29 12:33           ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-02-20 16:53             ` Ian Campbell
2015-02-23  9:33               ` Jan Beulich
2015-02-23 15:28                 ` Ian Campbell
2015-02-23 15:53                   ` Julien Grall
2015-02-23 16:04                     ` Ian Campbell
2015-02-23 16:11                       ` Julien Grall
2015-02-23 16:34                         ` Ian Campbell
2015-02-23 21:54                           ` Julien Grall
2015-02-23 16:22                     ` Jan Beulich
2015-02-23 15:51               ` Julien Grall
2015-02-23 16:02                 ` Ian Campbell
2015-03-04 14:37                   ` Julien Grall
2015-03-04 14:55                     ` Jan Beulich
2015-03-04 14:56                       ` Julien Grall
2015-01-13 14:25 ` [PATCH v3 14/24] xen/dts: Use unsigned int for MMIO and IRQ index Julien Grall
2015-02-20 16:55   ` Ian Campbell
2015-02-23 15:57     ` Julien Grall
2015-01-13 14:25 ` [PATCH v3 15/24] xen/dts: Provide an helper to get a DT node from a path provided by a guest Julien Grall
2015-02-20 16:56   ` Ian Campbell
2015-02-20 17:43     ` Julien Grall
2015-02-23 15:29       ` Ian Campbell
2015-02-23 15:30   ` Ian Campbell
2015-02-23 16:01     ` Julien Grall
2015-02-23 16:27       ` Ian Campbell
2015-03-10 13:58         ` Julien Grall
2015-03-11 12:34           ` Ian Campbell
2015-03-19 14:53             ` Julien Grall
2015-01-13 14:25 ` [PATCH v3 16/24] xen/passthrough: Introduce iommu_construct Julien Grall
2015-01-19 17:02   ` Jan Beulich
2015-01-20 14:28     ` Julien Grall
2015-01-20 16:40       ` Jan Beulich
2015-01-20 17:11         ` Julien Grall
2015-01-21 10:23           ` Jan Beulich
2015-01-21 10:37             ` Julien Grall
2015-01-21 10:48               ` Jan Beulich
2015-01-21 12:13                 ` Julien Grall
2015-01-21 14:13                   ` Jan Beulich
2015-01-21 14:22                     ` Julien Grall
2015-01-21 14:29                       ` Jan Beulich
2015-02-20 16:58   ` Ian Campbell
2015-02-20 17:45     ` Julien Grall
2015-02-23 15:31       ` Ian Campbell
2015-02-23 16:04         ` Julien Grall
2015-01-13 14:25 ` [PATCH v3 17/24] xen/passthrough: arm: release earlier the DT devices assigned to a guest Julien Grall
2015-01-20  9:19   ` Jan Beulich
2015-01-20 14:30     ` Julien Grall
2015-01-20 16:42       ` Jan Beulich
2015-01-28 18:59   ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-02-20 17:03   ` Ian Campbell
2015-02-20 17:46     ` Julien Grall
2015-02-23  9:37       ` Jan Beulich
2015-02-23 15:33         ` Ian Campbell
2015-02-23 16:22           ` Jan Beulich
2015-01-13 14:25 ` [PATCH v3 18/24] xen/passthrough: iommu_deassign_device_dt: By default reassign device to nobody Julien Grall
2015-01-20  9:21   ` Jan Beulich
2015-01-20 14:31     ` Julien Grall
2015-01-29 10:20   ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-02-20 17:04   ` Ian Campbell
2015-02-23  9:40     ` Jan Beulich
2015-02-23 10:10       ` Julien Grall [this message]
2015-02-23 10:20         ` Jan Beulich
2015-02-23 15:39           ` Ian Campbell
2015-02-23 16:24             ` Jan Beulich
2015-02-23 16:35               ` Ian Campbell
2015-02-23 16:37             ` Julien Grall
2015-02-23 16:47               ` Jan Beulich
2015-02-23 16:54                 ` Julien Grall
2015-02-23 10:10     ` Julien Grall
2015-02-23 15:34       ` Ian Campbell
2015-03-10 15:29         ` Julien Grall
2015-03-11 12:35           ` Ian Campbell
2015-03-19 15:07             ` Julien Grall
2015-01-13 14:25 ` [PATCH v3 19/24] xen/iommu: arm: Wire iommu DOMCTL for ARM Julien Grall
2015-01-20  9:22   ` Jan Beulich
2015-01-20 14:32     ` Julien Grall
2015-02-20 17:06   ` Ian Campbell
2015-01-13 14:25 ` [PATCH v3 20/24] xen/passthrough: Extend XEN_DOMCTL_assign_device to support DT device Julien Grall
2015-01-20  9:34   ` Jan Beulich
2015-01-20 14:37     ` Julien Grall
2015-01-20 16:43       ` Jan Beulich
2015-01-29 10:29     ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-01-29 10:37       ` Jan Beulich
2015-01-29 11:40       ` Julien Grall
2015-01-29 10:29   ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-01-29 11:45     ` Julien Grall
2015-01-29 12:09       ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-01-29 13:09         ` Julien Grall
2015-01-29 15:03           ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-01-29 15:14             ` Julien Grall
2015-02-20 17:17   ` Ian Campbell
2015-02-23 16:25     ` Daniel De Graaf
2015-03-10 16:52       ` Julien Grall
2015-03-10 22:45         ` Daniel De Graaf
2015-03-10 23:07           ` Julien Grall
2015-03-10 23:39             ` Daniel De Graaf
2015-03-11 12:30               ` Julien Grall
2015-03-11  8:53           ` Jan Beulich
2015-03-11 12:15             ` Julien Grall
2015-03-11 12:23               ` Ian Campbell
2015-03-11 12:35                 ` Julien Grall
2015-03-11 12:45               ` Jan Beulich
2015-03-10 16:33     ` Julien Grall
2015-03-11 12:37       ` Ian Campbell
2015-03-11 13:50         ` Julien Grall
2015-03-11 13:55           ` Ian Campbell
2015-03-11 14:03             ` Jan Beulich
2015-03-11 14:11               ` Julien Grall
2015-03-13 16:47           ` Julien Grall
2015-01-13 14:25 ` [PATCH v3 21/24] tools/(lib)xl: Add partial device tree support for ARM Julien Grall
2015-01-29 11:03   ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-01-29 12:02     ` Julien Grall
2015-01-29 12:26       ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-02-23 11:31     ` Ian Campbell
2015-02-23 11:46   ` Ian Campbell
2015-02-23 17:06     ` Julien Grall
2015-02-23 17:22       ` Ian Campbell
2015-03-17 13:32         ` Julien Grall
2015-02-23 12:03   ` Ian Jackson
2015-02-23 12:44     ` Ian Jackson
2015-02-23 18:43     ` Julien Grall
2015-02-23 19:12       ` Ian Jackson
2015-01-13 14:25 ` [PATCH v3 22/24] tools/libxl: arm: Use an higher value for the GIC phandle Julien Grall
2015-01-29 11:07   ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-01-29 12:05     ` Julien Grall
2015-01-29 12:28       ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-01-29 13:48         ` Julien Grall
2015-01-29 15:04           ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-01-29 15:12             ` Julien Grall
2015-02-23 14:36           ` Ian Campbell
2015-02-23 22:02             ` Julien Grall
2015-02-24 10:08               ` Ian Campbell
2015-03-18 14:14                 ` Julien Grall
2015-01-13 14:25 ` [PATCH v3 23/24] libxl: Add support for non-PCI passthrough Julien Grall
2015-01-29 11:12   ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-01-29 12:08     ` Julien Grall
2015-01-29 12:31       ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-01-29 13:51         ` Julien Grall
2015-02-23 14:41           ` Ian Campbell
2015-02-23 14:42   ` Ian Campbell
2015-01-13 14:25 ` [PATCH v3 24/24] xl: Add new option dtdev Julien Grall
2015-01-29 11:18   ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-01-29 12:09     ` Julien Grall
2015-01-29 12:32       ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-01-29 13:51         ` Julien Grall
2015-01-29 15:06           ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-02-23 14:44             ` Ian Campbell
2015-02-23 14:45   ` Ian Campbell
2015-02-23 22:03     ` Julien Grall
2015-02-24 10:07       ` Ian Campbell
2015-01-13 17:56 ` [PATCH v3 00/24] xen/arm: Add support for non-pci passthrough Julien Grall
2015-02-20 17:18 ` Ian Campbell
2015-02-20 17:47   ` Julien Grall

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