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From: "Jan Beulich" <JBeulich@suse.com>
To: Stefano Stabellini <stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com>
Cc: ian.jackson@eu.citrix.com, Mike Latimer <mlatimer@suse.com>,
	wei.liu2@citrix.com, Ian Campbell <ian.campbell@citrix.com>,
	xen-devel@lists.xen.org
Subject: Re: freemem-slack and large memory environments
Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2015 10:44:11 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <54F44D0B0200007800064EB3@mail.emea.novell.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.02.1503021006360.23507@kaball.uk.xensource.com>

>>> On 02.03.15 at 11:12, <stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 27 Feb 2015, Mike Latimer wrote:
>> On Friday, February 27, 2015 11:29:12 AM Mike Latimer wrote:
>> > On Friday, February 27, 2015 08:28:49 AM Mike Latimer wrote:
>> > After adding 2048aeec, dom0's target is lowered by the required amount 
> (e.g.
>> > 64GB), but as dom0 cannot balloon down fast enough,
>> > libxl_wait_for_memory_target returns -5, and the domain create fails
>>     (wrong return code - libxl_wait_for_memory_target actually returns -3)
>> 
>> With libxl_wait_for_memory_target return code corrected (2048aeec), debug 
>> messages look like this:
>> 
>> Parsing config from sles12pv
>>  DBG: start freemem loop
>>  DBG: free_memkb = 541976, need_memkb = 67651584 (rc=0)
>>  DBG: dom0_curr_target = 2118976472, set_memory_target = -67109608 (rc=1)
>>  DBG: wait_for_free_memory = 67651584 (rc=-5)
>>  DBG: wait_for_memory_target (rc=-3)
>> failed to free memory for the domain
>> 
>> After failing, dom0 continues to balloon down by the requested amount 
>> (-67109608), so a subsequent startup attempt would work.
>> 
>> My original fix (2563bca1) was intended to continue looping in freem until 
> dom0 
>> ballooned down the requested amount. However, this really only worked 
> without 
>> 2048aeec, as wait_for_memory_target was always returning 0. After Stefano 
>> pointed out this problem, commit 2563bca1 can still be useful - but seems 
> less 
>> important as ballooning down dom0 is where the major delays are seen.
>> 
>> The following messages show what was happening when wait_for_memory_target 
> was 
>> always returning 0. I've narrowed it down to just the interesting messages:
>> 
>> DBG: free_memkb = 9794852, need_memkb = 67651584 (rc=0)
>> DBG: dom0_curr_target = 2118976464, set_memory_target = -67109596 (rc=1)
>> DBG: dom0_curr_target = 2051866868, set_memory_target = -57856732 (rc=1)
>> DBG: dom0_curr_target = 1994010136, set_memory_target = -50615004 (rc=1)
>> DBG: dom0_curr_target = 1943395132, set_memory_target = -43965148 (rc=1)
>> DBG: dom0_curr_target = 1899429984, set_memory_target = -37538524 (rc=1)
>> DBG: dom0_curr_target = 1861891460, set_memory_target = -31560412 (rc=1)
>> DBG: dom0_curr_target = 1830331048, set_memory_target = -25309916 (rc=1)
>> DBG: dom0_curr_target = 1805021132, set_memory_target = -19514076 (rc=1)
>> DBG: dom0_curr_target = 1785507056, set_memory_target = -13949660 (rc=1)
>> DBG: dom0_curr_target = 1771557396, set_memory_target = -8057564 (rc=1)
>> DBG: dom0_curr_target = 1763499832, set_memory_target = -1862364 (rc=1)
>> 
>> The above situation is no longer relevant, but the overall dom0 target 
> problem 
>> is still an issue. It now seems rather obvious (hopefully) that the 10 
> second 
>> delay in wait_for_memory_target is not sufficient. Should that function be 
>> modified to monitor ongoing progress and continue waiting as long as 
> progress 
>> is being made?
>> 
>> Sorry for the long discussion to get to this point. :(
> 
> I think we need to increase the timeout passed to
> libxl_wait_for_free_memory. Would 30 sec be enough?

No fixed timeout will ever be enough for arbitrarily large requests.

Jan

  reply	other threads:[~2015-03-02 10:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-02-10  1:27 freemem-slack and large memory environments Mike Latimer
2015-02-10 21:34 ` Mike Latimer
2015-02-13 11:13   ` Wei Liu
2015-02-13 23:16     ` Mike Latimer
2015-02-18 14:10   ` Ian Campbell
2015-02-24 16:06     ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-02-24 16:54       ` Ian Campbell
2015-02-25 11:39         ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-02-25 12:00           ` Ian Campbell
2015-02-25 14:03             ` Ian Campbell
2015-02-25 14:09               ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-02-26 15:36                 ` Mike Latimer
2015-02-26 15:57                   ` Ian Campbell
2015-02-26 17:38                     ` Mike Latimer
2015-02-26 17:47                       ` Ian Campbell
2015-02-26 20:38                         ` Mike Latimer
2015-02-27 10:17                           ` Ian Campbell
2015-02-27 11:05                             ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-02-26 17:53                       ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-02-26 20:45                         ` Mike Latimer
2015-02-26 23:30                           ` Mike Latimer
2015-02-27 10:21                             ` Ian Campbell
2015-02-27 10:52                             ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-02-27 15:28                               ` Mike Latimer
2015-02-27 18:29                                 ` Mike Latimer
2015-02-28  0:31                                   ` Mike Latimer
2015-03-02 10:12                                     ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-03-02 10:44                                       ` Jan Beulich [this message]
2015-03-02 12:13                                         ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-03-02 13:04                                           ` Jan Beulich
     [not found]                                           ` <54F46DDB020000780006505B@suse.com>
2015-03-02 22:49                                             ` Mike Latimer
2015-03-02 11:42                                     ` Ian Campbell
2015-03-02 15:19                                       ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-03-02 16:04                                         ` Ian Campbell
2015-03-02 16:15                                           ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-03-02 22:49                                             ` Mike Latimer
2015-03-03 10:02                                               ` Ian Campbell
2015-03-03 10:32                                                 ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-03-03 10:40                                               ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-02-27  8:24                         ` Jan Beulich
2015-02-27 10:52                           ` Stefano Stabellini

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