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From: Alexander Holler <holler@ahsoftware.de>
To: nicolas.dichtel@6wind.com
Cc: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, tgraf@suug.ch, davem@davemloft.net
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v2 0/7] netns: ease netlink use with a lot of netns
Date: Tue, 26 May 2015 16:36:25 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <556484E9.4040005@ahsoftware.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <556462A0.2020708@6wind.com>

Am 26.05.2015 um 14:10 schrieb Nicolas Dichtel:
> Le 26/05/2015 12:53, Alexander Holler a écrit :
>> Am 25.05.2015 um 15:09 schrieb Nicolas Dichtel:
> [snip]
>>
>> Hmm, sounds like we're talking in different rooms about the same thing
>> in regard
>> to the dump. ;)
>>
>> I just wanted to explain why I think this series misses the (extended)
>> dump
>> which includes all interfaces (those of other namespaces too).
> Héhé, I'm fully aware of the limitations, we move step by step but feel
> free to
> send a patch ;-)

I wasn't very successfull in sending kernel patches, so it would just be 
a waste of time (for me and anyone else).

> More seriously, I'm thinking to that problem but I did not start
> anything right
> now and I don't know when I will have time to do it.
> If I understand well, you are saying that this missing part is blocker
> to use
> the new socket option. I don't agree with this. Doing a dump in an
> another netns
> is easy to do.
>
>>
>> How does one use NETLINK_LISTEN_ALL_NSID without beeing able to dump
>> all the
>> interfaces of namespaces your patch series might send messages for?
>>
>> The only way I currently see, is to start the listening part before any
>> namespace is created. Doing so, it can fill it's internal structures
>> with the
>> RTM_NEWLINK messages (besides that missing one for lo). But how do you
>> get these
>> RTM_NEWLINK messages for already created namespaces and their
>> interfaces, if not
>> by a dump?
> I don't understand why dumping in another netns is a problem.

It isn't. I just wondered how you (or someone else) is using 
NETLINK_LISTEN_ALL_NSID, assuming it already serves a purpose. ;)

But your last sentence explained it.

Regards,

Alexander Holler

  reply	other threads:[~2015-05-26 14:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-05-06  9:58 [PATCH net-next 0/6] netns: ease netlink use with a lot of netns Nicolas Dichtel
2015-05-06  9:58 ` [PATCH net-next 1/6] netns: returns always an id in __peernet2id() Nicolas Dichtel
2015-05-06 11:19   ` Thomas Graf
2015-05-06  9:58 ` [PATCH net-next 2/6] netns: always provide the id to rtnl_net_fill() Nicolas Dichtel
2015-05-06 11:25   ` Thomas Graf
2015-05-06  9:58 ` [PATCH net-next 3/6] netns: rename peernet2id() to peernet2id_alloc() Nicolas Dichtel
2015-05-06 11:27   ` Thomas Graf
2015-05-06  9:58 ` [PATCH net-next 4/6] netns: notify new nsid outside __peernet2id() Nicolas Dichtel
2015-05-06 11:48   ` Thomas Graf
2015-05-06 13:39     ` Nicolas Dichtel
2015-05-06  9:58 ` [PATCH net-next 5/6] netns: use a spin_lock to protect nsid management Nicolas Dichtel
2015-05-06 12:23   ` Thomas Graf
2015-05-06 13:40     ` Nicolas Dichtel
2015-05-06 14:05       ` Thomas Graf
2015-05-06  9:58 ` [PATCH net-next 6/6] netlink: allow to listen "all" netns Nicolas Dichtel
2015-05-06 12:10   ` Thomas Graf
2015-05-06 13:42     ` Nicolas Dichtel
2015-05-07  9:02 ` [PATCH net-next v2 0/7] netns: ease netlink use with a lot of netns Nicolas Dichtel
2015-05-07  9:02   ` [PATCH net-next v2 1/7] netns: returns always an id in __peernet2id() Nicolas Dichtel
2015-05-07  9:02   ` [PATCH net-next v2 2/7] netns: always provide the id to rtnl_net_fill() Nicolas Dichtel
2015-05-07  9:02   ` [PATCH net-next v2 3/7] netns: rename peernet2id() to peernet2id_alloc() Nicolas Dichtel
2015-05-07  9:02   ` [PATCH net-next v2 4/7] netns: notify new nsid outside __peernet2id() Nicolas Dichtel
2015-05-07 11:47     ` Thomas Graf
2015-05-07  9:02   ` [PATCH net-next v2 5/7] netns: use a spin_lock to protect nsid management Nicolas Dichtel
2015-05-07  9:02   ` [PATCH net-next v2 6/7] netlink: rename private flags and states Nicolas Dichtel
2015-05-07 11:49     ` Thomas Graf
2015-05-07  9:02   ` [PATCH net-next v2 7/7] netlink: allow to listen "all" netns Nicolas Dichtel
2015-05-07 11:55     ` Thomas Graf
2015-05-08 12:02   ` [PATCH net-next v2 0/7] netns: ease netlink use with a lot of netns Eric W. Biederman
2015-05-09 21:07     ` Nicolas Dichtel
2015-05-22 20:50     ` Alexander Holler
2015-05-22 21:04       ` Cong Wang
2015-05-22 21:12         ` Alexander Holler
2015-05-22 21:29           ` Cong Wang
2015-05-22 21:46             ` Alexander Holler
2015-05-22 21:19       ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-05-22 21:30         ` Alexander Holler
2015-05-25  7:45       ` Nicolas Dichtel
2015-05-25 10:55         ` Alexander Holler
2015-05-25 13:09           ` Nicolas Dichtel
2015-05-26 10:53             ` Alexander Holler
2015-05-26 12:10               ` Nicolas Dichtel
2015-05-26 14:36                 ` Alexander Holler [this message]
2015-05-29  5:57                   ` Alexander Holler
2015-05-10  2:15   ` David Miller
2015-05-20 14:19     ` [PATCH iproute2-next 0/6] Allow to monitor 'all-nsid' with ip and ip xfrm Nicolas Dichtel
2015-05-20 14:19       ` [PATCH iproute2-next 1/6] include: update linux/netlink.h Nicolas Dichtel
2015-05-20 14:19       ` [PATCH iproute2-next 2/6] man: update ip monitor page Nicolas Dichtel
2015-05-20 14:19       ` [PATCH iproute2-next 3/6] libnetlink: introduce rtnl_listen_filter_t Nicolas Dichtel
2015-05-20 14:19       ` [PATCH iproute2-next 4/6] ipmonitor: introduce print_headers Nicolas Dichtel
2015-05-20 14:20       ` [PATCH iproute2-next 5/6] ipmonitor: allows to monitor in several netns Nicolas Dichtel
2015-05-20 14:20       ` [PATCH iproute2-next 6/6] xfrmmonitor: " Nicolas Dichtel

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