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From: Denys Vlasenko <dvlasenk@redhat.com>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	Alexei Starovoitov <ast@plumgrid.com>,
	Will Drewry <wad@chromium.org>, Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	x86@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/5] x86/asm/entry/32: Replace RESTORE_RSI_RDI[_RDX] with open-coded 32-bit reads
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 02:24:35 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <557F6CC3.7070709@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150615202008.GA12450@gmail.com>

On 06/15/2015 10:20 PM, Ingo Molnar wrote:
>> Actually, ecx and r11 need to be loaded first. They are not so much "restored" 
>> as "prepared for SYSRET insn". Every cycle lost in loading these delays SYSRET. 
>> [...]
> 
> So in the typical case they will still be cached, and so their max latency should 
> be around 3 cycles.

If syscall flushes caches (say, a large read), or sleeps
and CPU schedules away, then pt_regs->ip,flags are evicted
and need to be reloaded.

> In fact because they are memory loads, they don't really have dependencies,
> they should be available to SYSRET almost immediately,

They depend on the memory data.

> i.e. within a cycle - and 
> there's no reason to believe why these loads wouldn't pipeline properly and 
> parallelize with the many other things SYSRET has to do to organize a return to 
> user-space, before it can actually use the target RIP and RFLAGS.

This does not sound right.

If it takes, say, 20 cycles to pull data from e.g. L3 cache to ECX,
then SYSRET can't possibly complete sooner than in 20 cycles.


  reply	other threads:[~2015-06-16  0:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-06-09 18:54 [PATCH 1/5] x86/asm/entry/32: Fix fallout from r9 trick removal in SYSCALL code Denys Vlasenko
2015-06-09 18:54 ` [PATCH 2/5] x86/asm/entry/32: Explain reloading of registers after __audit_syscall_entry Denys Vlasenko
2015-06-10  7:09   ` [tip:x86/asm] x86/asm/entry/32: Explain reloading of registers after __audit_syscall_entry() tip-bot for Denys Vlasenko
2015-06-09 18:54 ` [PATCH 3/5] x86/asm/entry/32: Shorten __audit_syscall_entry args preparation Denys Vlasenko
2015-06-10  6:21   ` Ingo Molnar
2015-06-12 23:28     ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-06-10  7:10   ` [tip:x86/asm] x86/asm/entry/32: Shorten __audit_syscall_entry() " tip-bot for Denys Vlasenko
2015-06-09 18:54 ` [PATCH 4/5] x86/asm/entry/32: Replace RESTORE_RSI_RDI[_RDX] with open-coded 32-bit reads Denys Vlasenko
2015-06-09 19:01   ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-06-09 19:03     ` Denys Vlasenko
2015-06-09 19:11       ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-06-09 19:18         ` Denys Vlasenko
2015-06-09 19:27           ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-06-14  8:40   ` Ingo Molnar
2015-06-14 15:21     ` Denys Vlasenko
2015-06-15 20:20       ` Ingo Molnar
2015-06-16  0:24         ` Denys Vlasenko [this message]
2015-06-18  9:31           ` Ingo Molnar
2015-06-18 10:59             ` Denys Vlasenko
2015-06-09 18:54 ` [PATCH 5/5] x86/asm/entry/32: Simplify ptrace register shuffling Denys Vlasenko
2015-06-09 18:59   ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-06-09 19:14     ` Denys Vlasenko
2015-06-18  9:33   ` Ingo Molnar
2015-06-10  7:09 ` [tip:x86/asm] x86/asm/entry/32: Fix fallout from the R9 trick removal in the SYSCALL code tip-bot for Denys Vlasenko

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