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From: Yang Hongyang <yanghy@cn.fujitsu.com>
To: Ian Jackson <Ian.Jackson@eu.citrix.com>
Cc: wei.liu2@citrix.com, Ian Campbell <ian.campbell@citrix.com>,
	wency@cn.fujitsu.com, andrew.cooper3@citrix.com,
	yunhong.jiang@intel.com, eddie.dong@intel.com,
	xen-devel@lists.xen.org, guijianfeng@cn.fujitsu.com,
	rshriram@cs.ubc.ca
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 --for 4.6 COLOPre 11/25] tools/libxc: support to resume uncooperative HVM guests
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2015 00:15:10 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <55A7D88E.3040400@cn.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <21927.53353.666566.702017@mariner.uk.xensource.com>



On 07/16/2015 11:40 PM, Ian Jackson wrote:
> Yang Hongyang writes ("Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH v4 --for 4.6 COLOPre 11/25] tools/libxc: support to resume uncooperative HVM guests"):
> ...
>> This is used for secondary, at a checkpoint, we do:
>
> Thanks for this explanation, which helps somewhat.
>
>
> However, Ian Campbell asked for changes to the commit message to
> better explain what is going.  I don't think what you have sent here
> is intended as a new commit message.  So you aren't addressing his
> concern in the way that he is expecting.
>
> Ian wrote, in response to v3:
>
>          I'm afraid I think the commit message for this patch (and the
>          associated doc comments) need revisiting almost from scratch,
>          to clearly explain what this patch is doing and why and what
>          the constraints on the new functionality will be.
>
>          At the moment it mostly talks in a confusing way about the old
>          behaviour and adds very specific assumptions to the new
>          function which are not made clear.
>
> To `revisit the commit message almost from scratch' means to
> completely rewrite the commit message.
>
> In v4 this patch had an additional paragraph in the commit message,
> but the commit message was otherwise substantially the same.  So in
> response to v4 Ian C said:
>
>          I'm afraid that the addition of [an extra] paragraph has not
>          really addressed my comment on v3:
>
> and then he requoted the text above.
>
> Your response seems again to miss the main point of Ian's comment.
>
>
> If you are unable to rewrite the commit message right now because you
> don't understand what is missing or wrong, then we can discuss that
> more.  We may even be able to help write it.
>
> However, it is not appropriate to simply ignore Ian Campbell's very
> clearly stated request for a complete overhaul of the commit message.

I'm sorry, I didn't mean to it.

>
> While it is a good spirit of helpfulness to provide additional
> explanation in an email, that is not the same thing.
>
>
> Moving forward, what we need is a commit message which explains, in
> Ian Campbell's words:
>
>    what this patch is doing
>
>      That is, what the change in behaviour is.  This includes clearly
>      distinguishing old behaviour, before the patch, from new
>      behaviour, after the patch.  I appreciate that there may be
>      language problems which are making this more difficult - I think
>      your native language may not use tenses the way English does.  So
>      we can help you with the language, but we need the old and new
>      behaviours to be clearly marked in your message.

I thought this is being addressed in the commit message, sorry again
for my poor English and not make it clear, I would appreciate your
help.

>
>    why
>
>      You have already gone some way to answering this but the
>      information needs to be folded into the commit message.
>
>    what the constraints on the new functionality will be.
>
>      It appears that you are supporting slow path resume for all HVM
>      guests.  Is that true ?  Are there any cases left unhandled ?

For the first question, yes. For second, Sorry that I don't catch your question,
did you mean in some cases resuming HVM through slow path will be unhandled?

>
>
> I suggest that the best thing for you to do next is either to reply to
> me with ideally (a) a draft of a new commit message for the patch, or
> if (as I suspect) you don't feel confident to do that, (a) questions
> to help you understand what we are looking for, or (c) a request for
> help with drafting.

c, I would appreciate your help with drafting, thank you.

>
>
>> While the XEN_DOMCTL_resumedomain hyper call for HVM is an NOP, it happens
>> to me that we could do this in a different way. We can modify
>> libxl__domain_resume, if the domain is HVM, we skip the xc_domain_resume
>> call, what do you think?
>
> Until we understand the answers to the questions above, it will be
> difficult for us to give a sensible opinion.
>
>
> Thanks,
> Ian.
> .
>

-- 
Thanks,
Yang.

  reply	other threads:[~2015-07-16 16:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 101+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-07-15  7:45 [PATCH v4 --for 4.6 COLOPre 00/25] Prerequisite patches for COLO Yang Hongyang
2015-07-15  7:45 ` [PATCH v4 --for 4.6 COLOPre 01/25] tools/libxl: rename libxl__domain_suspend to libxl__domain_save Yang Hongyang
2015-07-15 11:16   ` Ian Campbell
2015-07-15  7:45 ` [PATCH v4 --for 4.6 COLOPre 02/25] tools/libxl: move domain suspend code into libxl_dom_suspend.c Yang Hongyang
2015-07-15  7:45 ` [PATCH v4 --for 4.6 COLOPre 03/25] tools/libxl: move domain resume " Yang Hongyang
2015-07-15  7:45 ` [PATCH v4 --for 4.6 COLOPre 04/25] tools/libxl: rename remus checkpoint callbacks Yang Hongyang
2015-07-15 11:17   ` Ian Campbell
2015-07-16  1:43     ` Yang Hongyang
2015-07-15  7:45 ` [PATCH v4 --for 4.6 COLOPre 05/25] libxl/remus: introduce libxl__remus_setup Yang Hongyang
2015-07-15 11:26   ` Ian Campbell
2015-07-16  5:32     ` Yang Hongyang
2015-07-16 10:40       ` Ian Campbell
2015-07-15  7:45 ` [PATCH v4 --for 4.6 COLOPre 06/25] libxl/remus: introduce libxl__remus_teardown Yang Hongyang
2015-07-15 11:59   ` Ian Campbell
2015-07-16  1:43     ` Yang Hongyang
2015-07-15  7:45 ` [PATCH v4 --for 4.6 COLOPre 07/25] libxl/remus: init checkpoint_callback in Remus checkpoint callback Yang Hongyang
2015-07-15 12:02   ` Ian Campbell
2015-07-15 12:35     ` Yang Hongyang
2015-07-16 10:32       ` Ian Campbell
2015-07-16 11:00         ` Yang Hongyang
2015-07-16 11:16           ` Ian Campbell
2015-07-15  7:45 ` [PATCH v4 --for 4.6 COLOPre 08/25] tools/libxl: move remus code into libxl_remus.c Yang Hongyang
2015-07-15 12:05   ` Ian Campbell
2015-07-15  7:45 ` [PATCH v4 --for 4.6 COLOPre 09/25] tools/libxl: move save/restore code into libxl_dom_save.c Yang Hongyang
2015-07-15  7:45 ` [PATCH v4 --for 4.6 COLOPre 10/25] libxl/save: Refactor libxl__domain_suspend_state Yang Hongyang
2015-07-15 12:10   ` Ian Campbell
2015-07-15  7:45 ` [PATCH v4 --for 4.6 COLOPre 11/25] tools/libxc: support to resume uncooperative HVM guests Yang Hongyang
2015-07-15 12:26   ` Ian Campbell
2015-07-16  5:57     ` Yang Hongyang
2015-07-16 15:40       ` Ian Jackson
2015-07-16 16:15         ` Yang Hongyang [this message]
2015-07-16 16:27           ` Ian Jackson
2015-12-15  2:05             ` Wen Congyang
2016-01-04 16:33               ` Ian Jackson
2015-07-15  7:45 ` [PATCH v4 --for 4.6 COLOPre 12/25] tools/libxl: introduce enum type libxl_checkpointed_stream Yang Hongyang
2015-07-15 12:34   ` Ian Campbell
2015-07-15 13:58     ` Yang Hongyang
2015-07-16 10:34       ` Ian Campbell
2015-07-16 10:47         ` Yang Hongyang
2015-07-15  7:45 ` [PATCH v4 --for 4.6 COLOPre 13/25] migration/save: pass checkpointed_stream from libxl to libxc Yang Hongyang
2015-07-15 12:38   ` Ian Campbell
2015-07-16  6:05     ` Yang Hongyang
2015-07-16 10:47       ` Ian Campbell
2015-07-16 16:13       ` Wei Liu
2015-07-16 16:21         ` Yang Hongyang
2015-07-16 16:39           ` Wei Liu
2015-07-16 16:10   ` Wei Liu
2015-07-16 16:24     ` Yang Hongyang
2015-07-16 16:37       ` Wei Liu
2015-07-15  7:45 ` [PATCH v4 --for 4.6 COLOPre 14/25] tools/libxl: introduce libxl__domain_restore_device_model to load qemu state Yang Hongyang
2015-07-15 12:45   ` Ian Campbell
2015-07-15 13:42     ` Yang Hongyang
2015-07-15  7:45 ` [PATCH v4 --for 4.6 COLOPre 15/25] tools/libxl: check QEMU state before resume dm Yang Hongyang
2015-07-15 12:48   ` Ian Campbell
2015-07-15 12:54     ` Ian Campbell
2015-07-15 13:00       ` Wei Liu
2015-07-15 13:48         ` Ian Campbell
2015-07-15 13:49     ` Ian Campbell
2015-07-16 14:43   ` Wei Liu
2015-07-16 15:43     ` Yang Hongyang
2015-07-15  7:45 ` [PATCH v4 --for 4.6 COLOPre 16/25] tools/libxl: Update libxl_domain_unpause() to support qemu-xen Yang Hongyang
2015-07-15 12:50   ` Ian Campbell
2015-07-16  3:49     ` Yang Hongyang
2015-07-16 10:39       ` Ian Campbell
2015-07-16 10:51         ` Yang Hongyang
2015-07-16 16:26   ` Wei Liu
2015-07-15  7:45 ` [PATCH v4 --for 4.6 COLOPre 17/25] tools/libxl: introduce libxl__domain_common_switch_qemu_logdirty() Yang Hongyang
2015-07-15  7:45 ` [PATCH v4 --for 4.6 COLOPre 18/25] tools/libxl: export logdirty_init Yang Hongyang
2015-07-15  7:45 ` [PATCH v4 --for 4.6 COLOPre 19/25] tools/libxl: Add back channel to allow migration target send data back Yang Hongyang
2015-07-15  7:45 ` [PATCH v4 --for 4.6 COLOPre 20/25] tools/libx{l, c}: add back channel to libxc Yang Hongyang
2015-07-15 13:13   ` Ian Campbell
2015-07-16  6:29     ` Yang Hongyang
2015-07-16 11:01       ` Ian Campbell
2015-07-15 13:21   ` Andrew Cooper
2015-07-16  6:07     ` Yang Hongyang
2015-07-15  7:45 ` [PATCH v4 --for 4.6 COLOPre 21/25] tools/libxl: rename remus device to checkpoint device Yang Hongyang
2015-07-15 13:15   ` Ian Campbell
2015-07-15 13:34     ` Yang Hongyang
2015-07-16  9:26       ` Andrew Cooper
2015-07-16  9:29         ` Yang Hongyang
2015-07-15 13:32   ` Ian Campbell
2015-07-15 13:38     ` Yang Hongyang
2015-07-16  9:23     ` Yang Hongyang
2015-07-16  9:31       ` Ian Campbell
2015-07-16  9:36         ` Yang Hongyang
2015-07-16 10:14           ` Ian Campbell
2015-07-16 10:22             ` Yang Hongyang
2015-07-15  7:45 ` [PATCH v4 --for 4.6 COLOPre 22/25] tools/libxl: adjust the indentation Yang Hongyang
2015-07-15  7:45 ` [PATCH v4 --for 4.6 COLOPre 23/25] tools/libxl: store remus_ops in checkpoint device state Yang Hongyang
2015-07-15 13:21   ` Ian Campbell
2015-07-15  7:45 ` [PATCH v4 --for 4.6 COLOPre 24/25] tools/libxl: move remus state into a seperate structure Yang Hongyang
2015-07-15 13:28   ` Ian Campbell
2015-07-15 13:50     ` Yang Hongyang
2015-07-16 10:37       ` Ian Campbell
2015-07-16 11:10         ` Ian Jackson
2015-07-16 11:19           ` Ian Campbell
2015-07-15 15:08   ` Ian Jackson
2015-07-15 15:18     ` Yang Hongyang
2015-07-15  7:45 ` [PATCH v4 --for 4.6 COLOPre 25/25] tools/libxl: seperate device init/cleanup from checkpoint device layer Yang Hongyang
2015-07-15 13:37   ` Ian Campbell
2015-07-16  1:37 ` [PATCH v4 --for 4.6 COLOPre 00/25] Prerequisite patches for COLO Yang Hongyang

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