From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2A07A7D for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 05:14:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com (aserp1040.oracle.com [141.146.126.69]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ADE64A9 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 05:14:26 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <55BEF8AC.60500@oracle.com> Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2015 01:14:20 -0400 From: Sasha Levin MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Greg KH References: <55BAE39F.9060705@oracle.com> <55BBB514.7060509@oracle.com> <20150801134546.GO5180@mwanda> <55BCE519.1040207@oracle.com> <20150801162241.GA11115@kroah.com> In-Reply-To: <20150801162241.GA11115@kroah.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Dave Jones , "ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org" , Dan Carpenter Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] Self nomination List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , On 08/01/2015 12:22 PM, Greg KH wrote: >> > My point was that people should be submitting a more significant amount >> > of test code along with their new ABI - none of the recent syscalls added >> > has any mention in LTP for example. > Because most of us hate LTP. > > Seriously, I've lost days of my life many years ago tracing down "kernel > bugs" that in the end were just bugs in LTP due to the horrid code in > it. > > Now yes, this was a long time ago, and hopefully it has gotten a lot > better, but lots of people have this attitude which is why we are > encouraging people to use the tests in the kernel tree itself, and is > why new syscalls are all adding their tests there. > > I've encouraged people to take the "good bits" of LTP and add them to > the kernel test framework, but no one seems to want to do that... I didn't really mean to focus on LTP here: pick any project that has a critical mass of users and send them ways to test your code now and for future changes. Thanks, Sasha