From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.71) id 1ZVKaA-00080m-Ly for mharc-grub-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 28 Aug 2015 10:24:42 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:34098) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZVKa7-0007zs-Oq for grub-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 28 Aug 2015 10:24:40 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZVKa2-0003Fn-UU for grub-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 28 Aug 2015 10:24:39 -0400 Received: from prv-mh.provo.novell.com ([137.65.248.74]:40471) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZVKa2-0003FG-O1 for grub-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 28 Aug 2015 10:24:34 -0400 Received: from INET-PRV-MTA by prv-mh.provo.novell.com with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 28 Aug 2015 08:24:33 -0600 Message-Id: <55E08B3F020000780009DDCC@prv-mh.provo.novell.com> X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 14.0.1 Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2015 08:24:31 -0600 From: "Jan Beulich" To: "Daniel Kiper" Subject: Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH v2 22/23] x86: make Xen early boot code relocatable References: <1437402558-7313-1-git-send-email-daniel.kiper@oracle.com> <1437402558-7313-23-git-send-email-daniel.kiper@oracle.com> <55DF28E6020000780009D6E4@prv-mh.provo.novell.com> <20150827151054.GI10944@olila.local.net-space.pl> <55DF48FB020000780009D83F@prv-mh.provo.novell.com> In-Reply-To: <55DF48FB020000780009D83F@prv-mh.provo.novell.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 137.65.248.74 Cc: Juergen Gross , grub-devel@gnu.org, wei.liu2@citrix.com, ian.campbell@citrix.com, stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com, andrew.cooper3@citrix.com, roy.franz@linaro.org, ning.sun@intel.com, david.vrabel@citrix.com, phcoder@gmail.com, xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org, qiaowei.ren@intel.com, keir@xen.org, richard.l.maliszewski@intel.com, gang.wei@intel.com, fu.wei@linaro.org X-BeenThere: grub-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: The development of GNU GRUB List-Id: The development of GNU GRUB List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2015 14:24:40 -0000 >>> On 27.08.15 at 17:29, wrote: > You're right, there's no such requirement on memory use in the spec. > But you're missing the point. Supporting grub2 on UEFI is already a > hack (ignoring all intentions EFI had from its first days). And now > you've found an environment where that hack needs another hack > (in Xen) to actually work. That's too much hackery for my taste, the > more that things on this system can (afaict) work quite okay (without > grub2, or with using its chainloader mechanism). It has been brought to my attention that the use of the work "hack" above could have been understood as an offense. It certainly wasn't meant so, and I'd like to apologize if it came over that way. I simply used it not finding a better term while writing; perhaps I could have used "misguided" and "workaround" respectively, but I'm not sure that would have been received much better. In any event - I didn't mean to insult you or anyone else. Jan