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From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>, Matthew Garrett <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org>
Cc: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
	Denys Vlasenko <dvlasenk@redhat.com>,
	Leif Lindholm <leif.lindholm@linaro.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>, stable <stable@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Brian Gerst <brgerst@gmail.com>, Dave Young <dyoung@redhat.com>,
	"linux-efi@vger.kernel.org" <linux-efi@vger.kernel.org>,
	Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Peter Jones <pjones@redhat.com>,
	Matt Fleming <matt@codeblueprint.co.uk>,
	Matt Fleming <matt.fleming@intel.com>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@suse.de>, "Lee, Chun-Yi" <jlee@suse.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	James Bottomley <JBottomley@odin.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] x86/efi: Map EFI memmap entries in-order at runtime
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2015 17:54:52 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <560B32DC.2080704@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150928061646.GA21690@gmail.com>

On 09/27/2015 11:16 PM, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> 
> So the question is, what does Windows do?
> 
> PC firmware is a hostile environment for Linux, to be compatible the best we can 
> do is to mimic the environment that the firmware is tested under - i.e. try to use 
> the firmware in the way Windows uses it.
> 

Windows apparently went through the same exercise of breakage followed
by a fix.  It is unknown if Windows will preserve gaps since those are
not manifest on existing firmware.

	-hpa



WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa-YMNOUZJC4hwAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	Matthew Garrett <mjg59-1xO5oi07KQx4cg9Nei1l7Q@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Andy Lutomirski <luto-kltTT9wpgjJwATOyAt5JVQ@public.gmane.org>,
	Denys Vlasenko <dvlasenk-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Leif Lindholm
	<leif.lindholm-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx-hfZtesqFncYOwBW4kG4KsQ@public.gmane.org>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp-Gina5bIWoIWzQB+pC5nmwQ@public.gmane.org>,
	stable <stable-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	Andrew Morton
	<akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>,
	Brian Gerst <brgerst-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	Dave Young <dyoung-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	"linux-efi-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org"
	<linux-efi-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	Ard Biesheuvel
	<ard.biesheuvel-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	Linus Torvalds
	<torvalds-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>,
	Peter Jones <pjones-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Matt Fleming
	<matt-mF/unelCI9GS6iBeEJttW/XRex20P6io@public.gmane.org>,
	Matt Fleming
	<matt.fleming-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>,
	"Lee, Chun-Yi" <jlee-IBi9RG/b67k@public.gmane.org>,
	"linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org"
	<linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	James Bottomley <JBottomley-wo1vFcy6AUs@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] x86/efi: Map EFI memmap entries in-order at runtime
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2015 17:54:52 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <560B32DC.2080704@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150928061646.GA21690-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>

On 09/27/2015 11:16 PM, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> 
> So the question is, what does Windows do?
> 
> PC firmware is a hostile environment for Linux, to be compatible the best we can 
> do is to mimic the environment that the firmware is tested under - i.e. try to use 
> the firmware in the way Windows uses it.
> 

Windows apparently went through the same exercise of breakage followed
by a fix.  It is unknown if Windows will preserve gaps since those are
not manifest on existing firmware.

	-hpa

  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-09-30  0:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-09-25 22:02 [GIT PULL 0/2] EFI urgent fixes Matt Fleming
2015-09-25 22:02 ` Matt Fleming
2015-09-25 22:02 ` [PATCH 1/2] x86/efi: Map EFI memmap entries in-order at runtime Matt Fleming
2015-09-25 22:02   ` Matt Fleming
2015-09-26  5:56   ` Ingo Molnar
2015-09-26  5:56     ` Ingo Molnar
2015-09-26  6:44     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2015-09-26  6:44       ` Ard Biesheuvel
2015-09-26 13:43     ` Matt Fleming
2015-09-27  7:03       ` Ingo Molnar
2015-09-27  7:03         ` Ingo Molnar
2015-09-28  6:49         ` Ard Biesheuvel
2015-09-28  8:22           ` Ingo Molnar
2015-09-28  8:22             ` Ingo Molnar
2015-09-28  9:51             ` Ard Biesheuvel
2015-09-28  9:51               ` Ard Biesheuvel
2015-09-29  9:12               ` Ingo Molnar
2015-09-29 10:41                 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2015-09-29 14:18                   ` Matt Fleming
2015-09-29 14:18                     ` Matt Fleming
2015-09-29 13:52                 ` Matt Fleming
2015-09-29 13:52                   ` Matt Fleming
2015-09-26 17:01     ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-09-26 17:01       ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-09-26 17:20       ` H. Peter Anvin
2015-09-26 18:15         ` Ard Biesheuvel
2015-09-26 18:15           ` Ard Biesheuvel
2015-09-26 19:49           ` H. Peter Anvin
2015-09-26 19:57             ` Matt Fleming
2015-09-26 20:09               ` Ard Biesheuvel
2015-09-26 20:09                 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2015-09-26 20:19                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2015-09-27 16:30                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-09-27 18:06                     ` Matthew Garrett
2015-09-27 18:06                       ` Matthew Garrett
2015-09-28  6:16                       ` Ingo Molnar
2015-09-28  6:16                         ` Ingo Molnar
2015-09-28  6:41                         ` Matthew Garrett
2015-09-29 21:58                           ` Laszlo Ersek
2015-09-29 21:58                             ` Laszlo Ersek
2015-09-30  9:30                             ` Ard Biesheuvel
2015-09-30 16:43                               ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-09-30 16:43                                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-09-30 17:24                                 ` James Bottomley
2015-09-30 17:24                                   ` James Bottomley
2015-09-30 17:24                                   ` James Bottomley
2015-09-30  0:54                         ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2015-09-30  0:54                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2015-09-26 19:55         ` Matt Fleming
2015-09-26 19:55           ` Matt Fleming
2015-09-27  6:50       ` Ingo Molnar
2015-10-01 12:48   ` [tip:core/urgent] x86/efi: Fix boot crash by mapping EFI memmap entries bottom-up at runtime, instead of top-down tip-bot for Matt Fleming
2015-10-02  9:44     ` Matt Fleming
2015-09-25 22:02 ` [PATCH 2/2] arm64/efi: Don't pad between EFI_MEMORY_RUNTIME regions Matt Fleming
2015-09-25 22:02   ` Matt Fleming
2015-09-26  6:01   ` Ingo Molnar
2015-09-26  6:01     ` Ingo Molnar
2015-09-26  7:08     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2015-09-26  7:08       ` Ard Biesheuvel
2015-09-27  7:06       ` Ingo Molnar
2015-09-27  7:06         ` Ingo Molnar
2015-09-27 10:40         ` Borislav Petkov
2015-09-28  6:20           ` Ingo Molnar
2015-09-29  9:31           ` Dave Young
2015-09-29 10:24             ` Borislav Petkov
2015-09-29 14:36           ` Matt Fleming
2015-09-29 14:36             ` Matt Fleming
2015-09-30  0:56             ` H. Peter Anvin
2015-09-30  0:56               ` H. Peter Anvin
2015-09-30  8:33               ` Borislav Petkov
2015-09-30  8:33                 ` Borislav Petkov
2015-09-30  1:03         ` H. Peter Anvin
2015-09-30  1:16           ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-09-30  1:19             ` H. Peter Anvin
2015-09-30  4:24             ` Ard Biesheuvel
2015-09-30  4:24               ` Ard Biesheuvel
2015-10-01 10:44           ` Ingo Molnar
2015-10-01 12:49   ` [tip:core/urgent] arm64/efi: Fix boot crash by not padding " tip-bot for Ard Biesheuvel

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