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From: "Jan Beulich" <JBeulich@suse.com>
To: Quan Xu <quan.xu@intel.com>
Cc: Kevin Tian <kevin.tian@intel.com>, Feng Wu <feng.wu@intel.com>,
	"'george.dunlap@eu.citrix.com'" <george.dunlap@eu.citrix.com>,
	"'andrew.cooper3@citrix.com'" <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
	"'tim@xen.org'" <tim@xen.org>,
	"'xen-devel@lists.xen.org'" <xen-devel@lists.xen.org>,
	Jun Nakajima <jun.nakajima@intel.com>,
	"'keir@xen.org'" <keir@xen.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 0/2] VT-d flush issue
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2015 07:52:36 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5678204402000078000C1F5A@prv-mh.provo.novell.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <945CA011AD5F084CBEA3E851C0AB28894B7FC62B@SHSMSX101.ccr.corp.intel.com>

>>> On 21.12.15 at 15:31, <quan.xu@intel.com> wrote:
>>  On 21.12.2015 at 10:16pm, <JBeulich@suse.com> wrote:
>> >>> On 21.12.15 at 15:08, <quan.xu@intel.com> wrote:
>> >>  On 21.12.2015 at 9:23pm, <JBeulich@suse.com> wrote:
>> >> >>> On 21.12.15 at 14:08, <quan.xu@intel.com> wrote:
>> >> >>  On 21.12.2015 at 8:50pm, <JBeulich@suse.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >>> On 21.12.15 at 13:28, <quan.xu@intel.com> wrote:
>> >> >> > On 21.12.2015 at 7:47pm, <JBeulich@suse.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >>> On 20.12.15 at 14:57, <quan.xu@intel.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > 1.
>> >> >> > IMO, When VT-d is enabled, but is not working correct. These
>> >> >> > PCI-e devices
>> >> >> > (Disks/NICs..) DMA/Interrupt behaviors are not predictable.
>> >> >> > Assumed that, VT-d is effectively not in use for domains without
>> >> >> > PT device, while at least the virtualization infrastructure is not 
> trusted.
>> >
>> > 2.
>> >> >> > IMO, a VT-d (IEC/Context/Iotlb) flush issue is not a single
>> >> >> > domain behavior, it is a Hypervisor and infrastructure issue.
>> >> >> > ATS device's Device-TLB flush is a single domain issue.
>> >
>> > One quick question,
>> > Jan, do you agreed the above 2 descriptions?
>> 
>> I agree, but (see also Andrew's earlier reply) don't take them as an excuse to
>> crash Xen upon flush failures. Please accept that the general policy has to be to
>> handle errors with as narrow an impact as possible.
>>
> 
> That maybe the gap between us. It is really an issue that require to crash 
> Xen.
> 
> I think we are on the same page for Device-TLB flush issue.
> Could you share your idea how to deal with VT-d (IEC/Context/Iotlb) flush 
> issue?  Thanks.

I think this was sufficiently outlined before, by both Andrew and me.
I'm sorry, but I'm not willing to start over with the discussion.

Jan

  reply	other threads:[~2015-12-21 14:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-12-20 13:57 [PATCH v3 0/2] VT-d flush issue Xu, Quan
2015-12-20 15:51 ` Andrew Cooper
2015-12-21 11:46 ` Jan Beulich
2015-12-21 12:28   ` Xu, Quan
2015-12-21 12:50     ` Jan Beulich
2015-12-21 13:08       ` Xu, Quan
2015-12-21 13:22         ` Jan Beulich
2015-12-21 13:35           ` Xu, Quan
2015-12-21 14:08           ` Xu, Quan
2015-12-21 14:16             ` Jan Beulich
2015-12-21 14:31               ` Xu, Quan
2015-12-21 14:52                 ` Jan Beulich [this message]
2015-12-21 15:15                   ` Xu, Quan
2015-12-22  7:40           ` Wu, Feng
2015-12-22  8:01             ` Jan Beulich
2015-12-22  8:10               ` Wu, Feng
2015-12-22  8:20                 ` Jan Beulich
2015-12-22  8:10               ` Xu, Quan
2015-12-22  8:27                 ` Jan Beulich
2015-12-22  8:43                   ` Xu, Quan
2015-12-22  9:08                     ` Jan Beulich
2015-12-22  9:18                       ` Xu, Quan
2015-12-22 10:26                       ` Xu, Quan
2015-12-23  6:21                         ` Tian, Kevin
2015-12-21 12:44   ` Xu, Quan
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2015-12-12 13:21 Quan Xu
2015-12-19 14:01 ` Xu, Quan

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