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From: Sagi Grimberg <sagig-LDSdmyG8hGV8YrgS2mwiifqBs+8SCbDb@public.gmane.org>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch-jcswGhMUV9g@public.gmane.org>
Cc: dledford-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-rdma-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	Liran Liss <liranl-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 10/11] IB: only keep a single key in struct ib_mr
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2015 15:50:12 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <56795514.9090704@dev.mellanox.co.il> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20151222131326.GA25267-jcswGhMUV9g@public.gmane.org>



On 22/12/2015 15:13, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 11:17:54AM +0200, Sagi Grimberg wrote:
>> What makes me worried here is that the IB/RoCE specification really
>> defines different keys for local and remote access. I'm less concerned
>> about our consumers but more about our providers. We keep seeing new
>> providers come along and its not impossible that a specific HW will
>> *rely* on this distinction. In such a case we'd need to revert this
>> patch altogether in that very moment.
>>
>> I think we're better off working on proper abstractions to help ULPs
>> get it right (and simple!), without risking future devices support.
>
> With the new API in the next patch ULPs simply can't request an lkey
> and a rkey at the same time, so for kernel use it's not a problmblem at
> all.

This is why I said that the problem here is not the ULPs. But if a new
HW comes along with distinction between rkeys and lkeys it will have a
problem. For example a HW allocates two different keys, rkey and lkey.
And, it chooses to fail SEND from a rkey, or incoming READ/WRITE to a
lkey. How can such a device be supported with an API that allows a
single key per MR?
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-12-22 13:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-11-22 17:46 memory registration updates Christoph Hellwig
     [not found] ` <1448214409-7729-1-git-send-email-hch-jcswGhMUV9g@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-22 17:46   ` [PATCH 01/11] IB: start documenting device capabilities Christoph Hellwig
2015-11-22 17:46   ` [PATCH 02/11] IB: remove ib_query_mr Christoph Hellwig
2015-11-22 17:46   ` [PATCH 03/11] IB: remove support for phys MRs Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]     ` <1448214409-7729-4-git-send-email-hch-jcswGhMUV9g@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-24 12:01       ` Devesh Sharma
2015-11-22 17:46   ` [PATCH 04/11] IB: remove in-kernel support for memory windows Christoph Hellwig
2015-11-22 17:46   ` [PATCH 05/11] cxgb3: simplify iwch_get_dma_wr Christoph Hellwig
2015-11-22 17:46   ` [PATCH 06/11] nes: simplify nes_reg_phys_mr calling conventions Christoph Hellwig
2015-11-22 17:46   ` [PATCH 07/11] amso1100: fold c2_reg_phys_mr into c2_get_dma_mr Christoph Hellwig
2015-11-22 17:46   ` [PATCH 08/11] ehca: stop using struct ib_phys_buf Christoph Hellwig
2015-11-22 17:46   ` [PATCH 09/11] IB: remove the struct ib_phys_buf definition Christoph Hellwig
2015-11-22 17:46   ` [PATCH 10/11] IB: only keep a single key in struct ib_mr Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]     ` <1448214409-7729-11-git-send-email-hch-jcswGhMUV9g@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-23 19:41       ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]         ` <20151123194124.GF32085-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-23 19:48           ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-12-22  9:17       ` Sagi Grimberg
     [not found]         ` <56791542.6020604-LDSdmyG8hGV8YrgS2mwiifqBs+8SCbDb@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-22 13:13           ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]             ` <20151222131326.GA25267-jcswGhMUV9g@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-22 13:50               ` Sagi Grimberg [this message]
     [not found]                 ` <56795514.9090704-LDSdmyG8hGV8YrgS2mwiifqBs+8SCbDb@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-22 13:59                   ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]                     ` <20151222135927.GA26311-jcswGhMUV9g@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-22 16:58                       ` Sagi Grimberg
     [not found]                         ` <56798126.9000003-LDSdmyG8hGV8YrgS2mwiifqBs+8SCbDb@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-22 21:09                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                             ` <7sikrilf3ik3fjsgppqxh9gn.1451043246057@email.android.com>
     [not found]                               ` <CAMHdiBDv9mScD+5o90OQ_tmAKw9o48_jfao6W+EBOZkUg+wReA@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]                                 ` <CAMHdiBDv9mScD+5o90OQ_tmAKw9o48_jfao6W+EBOZkUg+wReA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-25 16:46                                   ` Liran Liss
     [not found]                                     ` <CAMHdiBC75n+u9BSMsKxJwcaBnGL68_3UBeQQtHp_CD5KGcUTnQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-05 17:46                                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                         ` <20160105174636.GD16269-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-06  6:08                                           ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]                                             ` <20160106060806.GA16509-jcswGhMUV9g@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-06 15:10                                               ` Sagi Grimberg
     [not found]                                                 ` <568D2E4E.5020806-LDSdmyG8hGV8YrgS2mwiifqBs+8SCbDb@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-06 16:59                                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-11-22 17:46   ` [PATCH 11/11] IB: provide better access flags for fast registrations Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]     ` <1448214409-7729-12-git-send-email-hch-jcswGhMUV9g@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-23 15:09       ` Chuck Lever
     [not found]         ` <EE465F12-A5F6-4C95-A77C-199DFF8F77BD-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-23 15:49           ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-11-23 18:58       ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]         ` <20151123185829.GE32085-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-23 19:44           ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-11-23  9:03   ` memory registration updates Sagi Grimberg
     [not found]     ` <5652D66E.5070600-LDSdmyG8hGV8YrgS2mwiifqBs+8SCbDb@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-23 14:16       ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]         ` <20151123141650.GA11116-jcswGhMUV9g@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-23 15:17           ` Sagi Grimberg
     [not found]             ` <56532E0A.20907-LDSdmyG8hGV8YrgS2mwiifqBs+8SCbDb@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-23 19:43               ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-11-23 15:06   ` Steve Wise

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