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From: "Jan Beulich" <jbeulich@suse.com>
To: andrew.cooper3@citrix.com
Cc: tim@xen.org, Ian.Campbell@citrix.com, xen-devel@lists.xen.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 01/31] xen/public: Export featureset information in the public API
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2015 03:24:59 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <567A767B02000078000DFA35@prv-mh.provo.novell.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <567A71DF.2070109@citrix.com>

>>> Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com> 12/23/15 11:05 AM >>>
>On 22/12/2015 16:59, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>>>> On 22.12.15 at 17:42, <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com> wrote:
>>> On 22/12/15 16:28, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>>>>>> On 16.12.15 at 22:24, <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com> wrote:
>>>>> +#define XEN_FEATURESET_1d     0 /* 0x00000001.edx      */
>>>>> +#define XEN_FEATURESET_1c     1 /* 0x00000001.ecx      */
>>>>> +#define XEN_FEATURESET_e1d    2 /* 0x80000001.edx      */
>>>>> +#define XEN_FEATURESET_e1c    3 /* 0x80000001.ecx      */
>>>>> +#define XEN_FEATURESET_Da1    4 /* 0x0000000d:1.eax    */
>>>>> +#define XEN_FEATURESET_7b0    5 /* 0x00000007:0.ebx    */
>>>> This ends up being pretty cryptic.
>>> Perhaps at a first glance, but there are so many uses that a shorthand
>>> really is needed.  See especially the MSR masking patches towards the
>>> end of the series.
>> I understand that something short is needed. But as the main
>> identifier in the ABI?
>
>It really comes down to whom is intended to do what with a featureset.
>
>These values are derivable as functions of the feature values
>themselves, but that requires an assumption that the featureset bitmap
>mirrors hardware precisely.  Providing this (names not withstanding) as
>a part of the ABI is intended to provide that assurance.
>
>I fully intend higher levels of the toolstack to deal with a featureset
>as an arbitrary bitmap, but lower levels like libxc do need a greater
>level of understanding of its layout.

All understood. The question just is whether the main identifiers in the public
header should be this cryptic, or whether consumers should instead introduce
shortcuts of their liking (even more so that, just like noted elsewhere, these
identifiers also lack "CPU" and perhaps "x86" in their names - in the end
feature leveling isn't something that's needed on x86 only).

Jan

  reply	other threads:[~2015-12-23 10:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 123+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-12-16 21:24 [PATCH RFC 00/31] x86: Improvements to cpuid handling for guests Andrew Cooper
2015-12-16 21:24 ` [PATCH RFC 01/31] xen/public: Export featureset information in the public API Andrew Cooper
2015-12-22 16:28   ` Jan Beulich
2015-12-22 16:42     ` Andrew Cooper
2015-12-22 16:59       ` Jan Beulich
2015-12-23 10:05         ` Andrew Cooper
2015-12-23 10:24           ` Jan Beulich [this message]
2015-12-23 11:26             ` Andrew Cooper
2016-01-06  7:43               ` Jan Beulich
2015-12-16 21:24 ` [PATCH RFC 02/31] tools/libxc: Use public/featureset.h for cpuid policy generation Andrew Cooper
2015-12-22 16:29   ` Jan Beulich
2016-01-05 14:13     ` Ian Campbell
2016-01-05 14:17       ` Andrew Cooper
2016-01-05 14:18         ` Ian Campbell
2016-01-05 14:23           ` Andrew Cooper
2016-01-05 15:02             ` Ian Campbell
2016-01-05 15:42               ` Andrew Cooper
2016-01-05 16:09                 ` Ian Campbell
2015-12-16 21:24 ` [PATCH RFC 03/31] xen/x86: Store antifeatures inverted in a featureset Andrew Cooper
2015-12-22 16:32   ` Jan Beulich
2015-12-22 17:03     ` Andrew Cooper
2016-01-05 14:19       ` Ian Campbell
2016-01-05 14:24         ` Andrew Cooper
2015-12-16 21:24 ` [PATCH RFC 04/31] xen/x86: Mask out unknown features from Xen's capabilities Andrew Cooper
2015-12-22 16:42   ` Jan Beulich
2015-12-22 17:01     ` Andrew Cooper
2015-12-16 21:24 ` [PATCH RFC 05/31] xen/x86: Collect more CPUID feature words Andrew Cooper
2015-12-22 16:46   ` Jan Beulich
2015-12-22 17:17     ` Andrew Cooper
2015-12-16 21:24 ` [PATCH RFC 06/31] xen/x86: Infrastructure to calculate guest featuresets Andrew Cooper
2015-12-22 16:50   ` Jan Beulich
2015-12-16 21:24 ` [PATCH RFC 07/31] xen/x86: Export host featureset via SYSCTL Andrew Cooper
2015-12-22 16:57   ` Jan Beulich
2015-12-16 21:24 ` [PATCH RFC 08/31] tools/stubs: Expose host featureset to userspace Andrew Cooper
2016-01-05 15:36   ` Ian Campbell
2016-01-05 15:59     ` Andrew Cooper
2016-01-05 16:09       ` Ian Campbell
2016-01-05 16:19         ` Andrew Cooper
2016-01-05 16:38           ` Ian Campbell
2015-12-16 21:24 ` [PATCH RFC 09/31] xen/x86: Calculate PV featureset Andrew Cooper
2015-12-22 17:07   ` Jan Beulich
2015-12-22 17:13     ` Andrew Cooper
2015-12-22 17:18       ` Jan Beulich
2015-12-16 21:24 ` [PATCH RFC 10/31] xen/x86: Calculate HVM featureset Andrew Cooper
2015-12-22 17:11   ` Jan Beulich
2015-12-22 17:21     ` Andrew Cooper
2015-12-16 21:24 ` [PATCH RFC 11/31] xen/x86: Calculate Raw featureset Andrew Cooper
2015-12-22 17:14   ` Jan Beulich
2015-12-22 17:27     ` Andrew Cooper
2015-12-16 21:24 ` [PATCH RFC 12/31] tools: Utility for dealing with featuresets Andrew Cooper
2016-01-05 15:17   ` Ian Campbell
2016-01-05 16:14     ` Andrew Cooper
2016-01-05 16:34       ` Ian Campbell
2016-01-05 17:13         ` Andrew Cooper
2016-01-05 17:37           ` Ian Campbell
2016-01-05 18:04             ` Andrew Cooper
2016-01-06 10:38               ` Ian Campbell
2016-01-06 10:40   ` Ian Campbell
2016-01-06 10:42     ` Ian Campbell
2015-12-16 21:24 ` [PATCH RFC 13/31] tools/libxc: Wire a featureset through to cpuid policy logic Andrew Cooper
2016-01-05 15:42   ` Ian Campbell
2016-01-05 16:20     ` Andrew Cooper
2015-12-16 21:24 ` [PATCH RFC 14/31] tools/libxc: Use featureset rather than guesswork Andrew Cooper
2016-01-05 15:54   ` Ian Campbell
2016-01-05 16:22     ` Andrew Cooper
2015-12-16 21:24 ` [PATCH RFC 15/31] x86: Generate deep dependencies of x86 features Andrew Cooper
2016-01-05 16:03   ` Ian Campbell
2016-01-05 16:42     ` Andrew Cooper
2016-01-05 16:54       ` Ian Campbell
2016-01-05 17:09         ` Andrew Cooper
2016-01-05 17:19           ` Ian Campbell
2015-12-16 21:24 ` [PATCH RFC 16/31] x86: Automatically generate known_features Andrew Cooper
2015-12-16 21:24 ` [PATCH RFC 17/31] xen/x86: Clear dependent features when clearing a cpu cap Andrew Cooper
2015-12-16 21:24 ` [PATCH RFC 18/31] xen/x86: Improve disabling of features which have dependencies Andrew Cooper
2016-01-21 16:48   ` Jan Beulich
2015-12-16 21:24 ` [PATCH RFC 19/31] tools/libxc: Sanitise guest featuresets Andrew Cooper
2016-01-05 16:05   ` Ian Campbell
2015-12-16 21:24 ` [PATCH RFC 20/31] x86: Improvements to in-hypervisor cpuid sanity checks Andrew Cooper
2016-01-21 17:02   ` Jan Beulich
2016-01-21 17:21     ` Andrew Cooper
2016-01-21 18:15       ` Andrew Cooper
2016-01-22  7:47         ` Jan Beulich
2016-01-22  7:45       ` Jan Beulich
2015-12-16 21:24 ` [PATCH RFC 21/31] x86/domctl: Break out logic to update domain state from cpuid information Andrew Cooper
2016-01-21 17:05   ` Jan Beulich
2016-01-21 17:08     ` Andrew Cooper
2015-12-16 21:24 ` [PATCH RFC 22/31] x86/cpu: Move set_cpumask() calls into c_early_init() Andrew Cooper
2016-01-21 17:08   ` Jan Beulich
2015-12-16 21:24 ` [PATCH RFC 23/31] xen/x86: Export cpuid levelling capabilities via SYSCTL Andrew Cooper
2016-01-21 17:23   ` Jan Beulich
2015-12-16 21:24 ` [PATCH RFC 24/31] tools/stubs: Expose host levelling capabilities to userspace Andrew Cooper
2015-12-16 21:24 ` [PATCH RFC 25/31] xen/x86: Common infrastructure for levelling context switching Andrew Cooper
2016-01-22  8:56   ` Jan Beulich
2016-01-22 10:05     ` Andrew Cooper
2015-12-16 21:24 ` [PATCH RFC 26/31] xen/x86: Rework AMD masking MSR setup Andrew Cooper
2016-01-22  9:27   ` Jan Beulich
2016-01-22 11:01     ` Andrew Cooper
2016-01-22 11:13       ` Jan Beulich
2016-01-22 13:59         ` Andrew Cooper
2016-01-22 14:12           ` Jan Beulich
2016-01-22 17:03             ` Andrew Cooper
2016-01-25 11:25               ` Jan Beulich
2015-12-16 21:24 ` [PATCH RFC 27/31] xen/x86: Rework Intel masking/faulting setup Andrew Cooper
2016-01-22  9:40   ` Jan Beulich
2016-01-22 14:09     ` Andrew Cooper
2016-01-22 14:29       ` Jan Beulich
2016-01-22 14:46         ` Andrew Cooper
2016-01-22 14:53           ` Jan Beulich
2015-12-16 21:24 ` [PATCH RFC 28/31] xen/x86: Context switch all levelling state in context_switch() Andrew Cooper
2016-01-22  9:52   ` Jan Beulich
2016-01-22 14:19     ` Andrew Cooper
2016-01-22 14:31       ` Jan Beulich
2016-01-22 14:39         ` Andrew Cooper
2015-12-16 21:24 ` [PATCH RFC 29/31] x86/pv: Provide custom cpumasks for PV domains Andrew Cooper
2016-01-22  9:56   ` Jan Beulich
2016-01-22 14:24     ` Andrew Cooper
2016-01-22 14:33       ` Jan Beulich
2016-01-22 14:42         ` Andrew Cooper
2016-01-22 14:48           ` Jan Beulich
2016-01-22 14:56             ` Andrew Cooper
2015-12-16 21:24 ` [PATCH RFC 30/31] x86/domctl: Update PV domain cpumasks when setting cpuid policy Andrew Cooper
2016-01-22 10:02   ` Jan Beulich
2015-12-16 21:24 ` [PATCH RFC 31/31] tools/libxc: Calculate xstate cpuid leaf from guest information Andrew Cooper

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