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From: "Jan Beulich" <JBeulich@suse.com>
To: Ian Campbell <ian.campbell@citrix.com>,
	Tamas Lengyel <tlengyel@novetta.com>
Cc: Wei Liu <wei.liu2@citrix.com>,
	Razvan Cojocaru <rcojocaru@bitdefender.com>,
	Stefano Stabellini <stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com>,
	GeorgeDunlap <george.dunlap@eu.citrix.com>,
	Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
	Ian Jackson <ian.jackson@eu.citrix.com>,
	Stefano Stabellini <stefano.stabellini@citrix.com>,
	xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org, KeirFraser <keir@xen.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/2] altp2m: Merge p2m_set_altp2m_mem_access and p2m_set_mem_access
Date: Mon, 01 Feb 2016 09:36:52 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <56AF97B402000078000CD1C1@prv-mh.provo.novell.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1454344256.28781.113.camel@citrix.com>

>>> On 01.02.16 at 17:30, <ian.campbell@citrix.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 2016-02-01 at 09:21 -0700, Jan Beulich wrote:
>> > > > On 01.02.16 at 15:45, <ian.campbell@citrix.com> wrote:
>> > On Fri, 2016-01-29 at 09:47 -0700, Jan Beulich wrote:
>> > > > > > On 29.01.16 at 17:32, <tlengyel@novetta.com> wrote:
>> > > > On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 9:19 AM, Jan Beulich <JBeulich@suse.com>
>> > > > wrote:
>> > > > > > > > On 29.01.16 at 17:12, <tlengyel@novetta.com> wrote:
>> > > > > > On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 4:03 AM, Jan Beulich <JBeulich@suse.com 
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > > > > > > On 28.01.16 at 21:58, <tlengyel@novetta.com> wrote:
>> > > > > > > > --- a/xen/include/public/memory.h
>> > > > > > > > +++ b/xen/include/public/memory.h
>> > > > > > > > @@ -423,11 +423,14 @@ struct xen_mem_access_op {
>> > > > > > > >      /* xenmem_access_t */
>> > > > > > > >      uint8_t access;
>> > > > > > > >      domid_t domid;
>> > > > > > > > +    uint16_t altp2m_idx;
>> > > > > > > > +    uint16_t _pad;
>> > > > > > > >      /*
>> > > > > > > >       * Number of pages for set op
>> > > > > > > >       * Ignored on setting default access and other ops
>> > > > > > > >       */
>> > > > > > > >      uint32_t nr;
>> > > > > > > > +    uint32_t _pad2;
>> > > > > > > 
>> > > > > > > Repeating what I had said on v1: So this is a tools only
>> > > > > > > interface,
>> > > > > > > yes. But it's not versioned (other than e.g. domctl and
>> > > > > > > sysctl),
>> > > > > > > so
>> > > > > > > altering the interface structure is at least fragile.
>> > > > > > 
>> > > > > > Not sure what I can do to address this.
>> > > > > 
>> > > > > Deprecate the old interface and introduce a new one. But other
>> > > > > maintainers' opinions would be welcome.
>> > > > 
>> > > > That seems like a very heavy handed solution to me.
>> > > 
>> > > I understand that - hence the request for others' opinions.
>> > 
>> > It's unfortunate that we've found ourselves here, but I think rather
>> > than
>> > deprecating the current and adding a new op alongside we should just
>> > accept
>> > the one-time fragility this time around, add the version field as part
>> > of
>> > this set of changes and try and remember to include a version number
>> > for
>> > next time we add a tools only interface. I don't think xenaccess is yet
>> > widely used outside of Tamas and the Bitdfender folks, who I would
>> > assume
>> > can cope with such a change.
>> > 
>> > I could accept changing the op number would make sense, but I don't
>> > think
>> > we should deprecate the old one (which implies continuing to support it
>> > in
>> > parallel), if we go this route we should just retire the old number to
>> > straight away to return -ENOSYS (or maybe -EACCESS, which is what a
>> > version
>> > mismatch would have resulted in).
>> 
>> That actually looks like a reasonable compromise, until we finally
>> manage to get around to morph the tools-only HVM-ops into a
>> new hvmctl hypercall (leaving only guest accessible ones in the
>> current interface).
> 
> Aren't the ones being discussed here xenmem subops rather than hvmops?

Oh, yes, right. I'm sorry for confusing things.

Jan

  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-02-01 16:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-01-28 20:58 [PATCH v2 1/2] altp2m: Merge p2m_set_altp2m_mem_access and p2m_set_mem_access Tamas K Lengyel
2016-01-28 20:58 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] altp2m: Implement p2m_get_mem_access for altp2m views Tamas K Lengyel
2016-01-29 11:03 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] altp2m: Merge p2m_set_altp2m_mem_access and p2m_set_mem_access Jan Beulich
2016-01-29 16:12   ` Lengyel, Tamas
2016-01-29 16:19     ` Jan Beulich
2016-01-29 16:32       ` Lengyel, Tamas
2016-01-29 16:47         ` Jan Beulich
2016-02-01 14:45           ` Ian Campbell
2016-02-01 15:22             ` Ian Jackson
2016-02-01 16:39               ` Jan Beulich
2016-02-01 16:58                 ` Ian Jackson
2016-02-01 17:03                   ` Jan Beulich
2016-02-01 16:21             ` Jan Beulich
2016-02-01 16:30               ` Ian Campbell
2016-02-01 16:35                 ` Lengyel, Tamas
2016-02-01 16:41                   ` Jan Beulich
2016-02-01 16:36                 ` Jan Beulich [this message]
2016-02-01 16:36               ` Lengyel, Tamas
2016-02-01 11:02 ` Wei Liu

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