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From: Stephen Warren <swarren-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
To: Jonathan Tinkham
	<sctincman-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	Dylan Reid <dgreid-F7+t8E8rja9g9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
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	Liam Girdwood <lgirdwood-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
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	Alexandre Courbot
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	Thierry Reding
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/4] soc/sound: tegra_max98090: do not invert headphone jack
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2016 14:43:32 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <56C39804.7040706@wwwdotorg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <56BE9125.3060104-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>

On 02/12/2016 07:12 PM, Jonathan Tinkham wrote:
> On 02/08/2016 11:56 AM, Stephen Warren wrote:
>> On 02/04/2016 12:17 PM, Dylan Reid wrote:
>>> On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 11:05 AM, Jonathan Tinkham
>>> <sctincman-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>>>> On 02/04/2016 09:36 AM, Stephen Warren wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On 02/03/2016 10:30 PM, Jonathan Tinkham wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The headphone jack should not be inverted
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Have you tested this on Venice2 as well as Nyan? I'm pretty sure
>>>>> Venice2
>>>>> was tested when this driver was written, and whoever added Nyan
>>>>> support to
>>>>> the kernel simply assumed it would work. As such, my suspicion is
>>>>> that this
>>>>> series will break Venice2 even as it fixes Nyan.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I have not tested this on Venice2, only on Nyan. That seems like a
>>>> plausible
>>>> cause and reasonable suspicion.
>>>>
>>>>> Why doesn't user-space expect what the kernel actually implements? The
>>>>> kernel should be defining the control naming.
>>>>>
>>>>> Which user-space are you using specifically, and which part of it
>>>>> expects
>>>>> particular naming?
>>>>>
>>>>> Perhaps this series needs to be parametrized based on a flag in DT,
>>>>> rather
>>>>> than switching the hard-coded values, so that only Venice2 can be
>>>>> affected?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Specifically pulse-audio and alsa under Arch Linux.
>>>>
>>>> I was referencing 'Documentation/sound/alsa/soc/dapm.txt' with
>>>> regards to
>>>> control names. While it is possible to add another entry into the
>>>> user-space
>>>> configuration, I took this documentation as a definition of kernel
>>>> control
>>>> naming schemes, and thought the driver had used a non-standard
>>>> naming scheme
>>>> (or at least, not a consistent one).
>>>>
>>>>> On 02/03/2016 10:31 PM, Jonathan Tinkham wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Update device-tree bindings to reflect the rename of the board's
>>>>>> headphone jack.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This looks like an incompatible change to the DT. While you've
>>>>> fixed the
>>>>> DT, which will fix new installations, old DTs now won't work. This
>>>>> breaks DT
>>>>> ABI. Any DT change needs to be backwards compatible, i.e. the old name
>>>>> should still work and be documented as a legacy value.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I see that now. If the inversion behavior differs between venice2
>>>> and nyan,
>>>> then another compatible string would need to be added anyways,
>>>> correct? As
>>>> you mentioned above, this might need to be done anyways for the rename.
>>>
>>> Venice2 and both nyan platforms do have different polarity of HP detect.
>>>
>>> For some boards we have an hd-invert property in DT.
>>>
>>> Would setting hp-det-gpio to active low in the pinmux achieve the
>>> same thing?
>>
>> I don't believe we have a pinmux setting for this.
>>
>> However, there's a GPIO_ACTIVE_HIGH/LOW flag that could be used in DT
>> property nvidia,hp-det-gpios's flags field to indicate the polarity.
>> That should work, but indeed you could use a separate hp-dt-invert
>> property if not.
>
> Yeah, I could find other things that have an "invert" property, but none
> for headphone/mic detect pins.
>
> I'm not sure setting the GPIO_ACTIVE_HIGH/LOW flag would work. Doesn't
> it depend on how the pin is physically wired?

The flag value used has to match the circuit design, yes. However, I 
don't think there's any requirement that the circuit work any particular 
way for the software to rely on using such a flag.

Logically, there's a "headphone present" signal, and SW needs to 
determine the value of that signal. The "present" value could be 
represented by either a low or a high state in the circuit, depending on 
how the circuit is implemented. The ACTIVE_HIGH/LOW flag simply 
indicates which voltage level is associated with the semantic meaning on 
"headphone present".

  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-02-16 21:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-02-04  5:30 [PATCH 0/4] Fix headphone detection on Acer Chromebook 13 Jonathan Tinkham
     [not found] ` <1454563862-1971-1-git-send-email-sctincman-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-04  5:30   ` [PATCH 1/4] soc/sound: tegra_max98090: do not invert headphone jack Jonathan Tinkham
     [not found]     ` <1454563862-1971-2-git-send-email-sctincman-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-04 16:36       ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]         ` <56B37E19.6010002-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-04 19:05           ` Jonathan Tinkham
     [not found]             ` <56B3A10E.4010508-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-04 19:17               ` Dylan Reid
     [not found]                 ` <CAEUnVG7bCgzC-f_Anaw6qayGsXi=_NrWZGRy7SSALkLVLPZnUQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-08 18:56                   ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]                     ` <56B8E4D8.8070604-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-13  2:12                       ` Jonathan Tinkham
     [not found]                         ` <56BE9125.3060104-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-16 21:43                           ` Stephen Warren [this message]
2016-02-04 19:37               ` Mark Brown
2016-02-08 18:59               ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]                 ` <56B8E5AD.8040707-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-13  2:10                   ` Jonathan Tinkham
     [not found]                     ` <56BE9094.1040500-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-16 21:41                       ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]                         ` <56C3977E.8050001-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-22  6:24                           ` [PATCH 0/3] Fix headphone detection on Acer Chromebook 13 Jonathan Tinkham
     [not found]                             ` <1456122253-3039-1-git-send-email-sctincman-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-22  6:24                               ` [PATCH 1/3] dt/bindings: Add 'nvidia,hd-no-invert' option Jonathan Tinkham
     [not found]                                 ` <1456122253-3039-2-git-send-email-sctincman-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-22 19:48                                   ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]                                     ` <56CB6624.6030600-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-22 21:12                                       ` Jonathan Tinkham
2016-02-23 17:19                                       ` [PATCH] sound/soc/tegra: tegra_max98090: fix hp detect on Chromebook 13 Jonathan Tinkham
     [not found]                                         ` <1456247985-5563-1-git-send-email-sctincman-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-23 17:19                                           ` [PATCH] sound/soc/tegra: tegra_max98090: Invert headphone by GPIO flag Jonathan Tinkham
     [not found]                                             ` <1456247985-5563-2-git-send-email-sctincman-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-23 17:35                                               ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]                                                 ` <56CC9860.2060003-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-24 16:42                                                   ` Jonathan Tinkham
     [not found]                                                     ` <56CDDD82.7040402-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-24 16:45                                                       ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]                                                         ` <56CDDE35.1010408-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-24 16:51                                                           ` Jonathan Tinkham
2016-03-02 17:43                                                   ` [PATCH] AsoC: tegra_max98090: honor headphone detect GPIO polarity Jonathan Tinkham
     [not found]                                                     ` <1456940623-1496-1-git-send-email-sctincman-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-03-03 18:37                                                       ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]                                                         ` <56D8845A.4050704-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2016-03-04 17:42                                                           ` Jonathan Tinkham
     [not found]                                                             ` <56D9C921.7080802-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-03-04 17:47                                                               ` Stephen Warren
2016-02-24  3:25                                           ` [PATCH] sound/soc/tegra: tegra_max98090: fix hp detect on Chromebook 13 Mark Brown
     [not found]                                             ` <20160224032552.GJ18327-GFdadSzt00ze9xe1eoZjHA@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-24 16:43                                               ` Jonathan Tinkham
2016-02-22  6:24                               ` [PATCH 2/3] sound/soc/tegra: tegra_max98090: add 'nvidia,hd-no-invert' option Jonathan Tinkham
2016-02-22  6:24                               ` [PATCH 3/3] ARM: tegra: Do not invert nyan headphone detection signal Jonathan Tinkham
2016-02-22  9:46                               ` [PATCH 0/3] Fix headphone detection on Acer Chromebook 13 Mark Brown
2016-02-04  5:31   ` [PATCH 2/4] sound/soc: tegra_max98090: rename headphone jack DAPM Jonathan Tinkham
     [not found]     ` <1454563862-1971-3-git-send-email-sctincman-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-04 16:38       ` Stephen Warren
2016-02-04  5:31   ` [PATCH 3/4] sound/soc: tegra_max98090: document headphone jack rename Jonathan Tinkham
     [not found]     ` <1454563862-1971-4-git-send-email-sctincman-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-04 16:39       ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]         ` <56B37EAC.5010101-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-04 19:22           ` Dylan Reid
2016-02-04  5:31   ` [PATCH 4/4] soc/sound: tegra_max98090: update dts affected by rename Jonathan Tinkham
2016-02-04 18:03   ` [PATCH 0/4] Fix headphone detection on Acer Chromebook 13 Mark Brown

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